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re: The gloves are off regarding St. George...
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:51 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:51 pm to LSURussian
You keep saying the leaders of the SG movement are not being honest...do you think the leaders against it are being honest?
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:54 pm to Mahootney
quote:Anyone who can comprehend written English wouldn't get confused in a thread which has continually debated the issue of TWO cities.
How could anyone get confused when you switch back and forth
quote:Apology accepted.
I'm sorry
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:54 pm to Mahootney
Still waiting on any substance from you on the issues you've been challenged.....
And if you aren't aware of any, it just shows how little you are paying attention.
Anyone that can understand the English language would not have ignored them.
And if you aren't aware of any, it just shows how little you are paying attention.
Anyone that can understand the English language would not have ignored them.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:54 pm to LSURussian
This is why we can't have nice things.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:57 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
do you think the leaders against it are being honest?
Probably not. My first inclination is to not trust any politician. Experience has taught me to think that way.
But, what specifically are you referring to that they are not being honest about? I"ll opine when you specify that.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:57 pm to LSURussian
quote:Maybe if I had written it in Russian, you would have caught the sarcasm.
Apology accepted.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 1/11/14 at 6:58 pm to LSURussian
quote:It was a rhetorical question, but if you weren't so dumb, you might have understood that.
Probably not. My first inclination is to not trust any politician. Experience has taught me to think that way. But, what specifically are you referring to that they are not being honest about? I"ll opine when you specify that.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:01 pm to Mahootney
quote:How do you know? You didn't ask it.
It was a rhetorical question
Are you confused again?
ETA: Or, are you posting under two different screen names?
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:03 pm to LSURussian
quote:"Experience has taught me to think that way."
How do you know? You didn't ask it.
Oh... and I found this little gem.... so everyone will know your motivation behind your anti-SG position.
quote:Racist through and through. Yet, you want us to take you seriously.
No matter who claims what about the reasons for splitting off, it all comes back to some white parents don't want their little darlings sitting in a classroom that has more than two or three black kids in the classroom.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:07 pm to LSURussian
The ordeal earlier this week when they tried to remove fire chiefs and replace them with opponents of SG while saying it had nothing to do with the SG issue...does anyone believe that? How can anyone support that type of behavior?
ETA: it was rhetorical but I answered one of your questions. Also giving partial truths that only support their agenda is dishonest...for ex. The numbers about the green light project. Sure it fits the agenda but what about all the tax dollars being spent in the city not generated by the city? Pick one issue and show one instance that supports your stance while ignoring all the ones that don't....typical political rhetoric.
ETA: it was rhetorical but I answered one of your questions. Also giving partial truths that only support their agenda is dishonest...for ex. The numbers about the green light project. Sure it fits the agenda but what about all the tax dollars being spent in the city not generated by the city? Pick one issue and show one instance that supports your stance while ignoring all the ones that don't....typical political rhetoric.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:08 pm to Mahootney
quote:I don't care if you to take me seriously. If you ever actually make a post that adds something of substance to a thread, I may change my mind.
Yet, you want us to take you seriously.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:12 pm to LSURussian
I don't care if I change your mind, b/c you've already identified yourself as a racist. And, you've already said, 
quote:So what good would it do to post anything? You've already made up your mind.
No matter who claims what about the reasons for splitting off, it all comes back to some white parents don't want their little darlings sitting in a classroom that has more than two or three black kids in the classroom.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:14 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
The ordeal earlier this week when they tried to remove fire chiefs and replace them with opponents of SG while saying it had nothing to do with the SG issue...does anyone believe that? How can anyone support that type of behavior?
That was a total crock of crap when they claimed it had nothing to do with SG. Of course it did. And they were stupid to even consider doing it. I'm glad Loupe and the rest of the council killed it.
But it wasn't replacing the fire chiefs. It was an attempt to replace the members whose terms are expiring who sit on the SG fire district's advisory board.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:20 pm to LSURussian
The point is they blatantly lied IMO and anyone who believes otherwise is a dumbass.
What do you think can be done to save BR?
Whether or not SG passes it will only delay or accelerate the demise of BR.
What do you think can be done to save BR?
Whether or not SG passes it will only delay or accelerate the demise of BR.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:23 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
Also giving partial truths that only support their agenda is dishonest...for ex. The numbers about the green light project. Sure it fits the agenda but what about all the tax dollars being spent in the city not generated by the city?
This is where I have a problem. i have spent hours trying to determine where the tax dollars come from and isolating where those specific dollars go to. I even read the entire 500+ page EBR/BR 2014 budget.
It is especially difficult when analyzing sales taxes.
I hope to corner someone soon who works in the EBR finance/budget department to get them to explain that to me.
If anyone here knows how to track specific sources of taxes collected all the way to where they get spent, I'd love to learn from them.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:31 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
The point is they blatantly lied IMO and anyone who believes otherwise is a dumbass.
Of couse they lied. It won't be the last time politicians on both sides will lie.
It amazes me how so many posters on this board and the Poli Board take what the SG organizers say and accept it at face value without questioning it. Especially when it comes to the financial aspects of the new city.
quote:For good, honest people to get heavily involved and elect new leaders. When I see people like John Delgado get elected, I get very discouraged.
What do you think can be done to save BR?
quote:I have not reached that level of cynicism yet but you may be correct.
Whether or not SG passes it will only delay or accelerate the demise of BR.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:32 pm to Traffic Circle
quote:
The City of Baton Rouge, because of its policies, is in decline.
Which policies? Be specific.
And what makes you say it is in decline? I've seen a lot of improvement over the last decade. And the last year in particular has yielded great news in terms of economic development and revitalization of downtown.
quote:
Many people in St. George don't care about downtown, CEPEX, The Chamber, Commercial Properties, The Redevelopment Authority, etc.
I know, and it's incredibly short-sighted IMO. I live in St. George and recognize the value in the work these groups do.
quote:
They just want a good local school, good fire and police protection, and local government that understands their concerns.
Well, IMO the school system was fricked by the deseg order from a federal judge, which only ended a few years ago. Do you think we have inadequate police and fire protection in St. George?
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:40 pm to urinetrouble
quote:You are a refreshing voice of reason.
urinetrouble
I just hope there are more like you in SG. At least enough to make up 50%+1 vote.
Just a factoid about EBR and BR: We are the only parish and city in Louisiana with an AAA bond credit rating. That is an incredible standard to meet and continue and it tends to contradict anyone who claims EBR/BR is crap or in decline.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:50 pm to LSURussian
quote:
It amazes me how so many posters on this board and the Poli Board take what the SG organizers say and accept it at face value without questioning it. Especially when it comes to the financial aspects of the new city.
I live in BR and have my entire life but I can't find one good reason to tell the SG proponents to stay as it is now. I can't argue with anyone wanting more bang for their buck.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 7:54 pm to Topwater Trout
The question is, can they really get it? I don't understand this completely though. Why take a whole third of the parish? It's not like Zachary or Central went that route. It can't be in that entire region's interest to be one city. Besides schools, what could the other advantages be?
These questions may have already been addressed. I'm pretty ignorant on this subject; I haven't been paying much attention to it.
These questions may have already been addressed. I'm pretty ignorant on this subject; I haven't been paying much attention to it.
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