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re: The Baton Rouge traffic problem exceeds the problem solving skills of our political class

Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:20 am to
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:20 am to
You may be right. You said it was a guess and said it was retirement.

I just wanted to know if you had some statistical data or something, or were just guessing like you said. That’s all! Cheers.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
9857 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:21 am to
We need a governor like Mike Foster again who will take the bull by the horns and start building and finding ways to budget and build smarter.

He is the one who saw the completion of US 90 4 laning between Houma and Morgan City which was no easy fate building a road in the middle of a swamp. Some as Governor and some as State Senator. He also helped to complete I-49 in Alexandria.

Both of them were by no means cake walk projects and took years to complete.



Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42007 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:23 am to
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then why are you even bothering with this thread?


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well shite, with such a myopic view of us hayseeds, kinda makes me wonder why you're even on this site, let alone in this thread.



Dont get in your feelings. Nothing would make me happier than to see Louisiana get out of its own way and become successful.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42007 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:24 am to
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We need a governor like Mike Foster


AGREED.

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He is the one who saw the completion of US 90 4 laning between Houma and Morgan City which was no easy fate building a road in the middle of a swamp. Some as Governor and some as State Senator. He also helped to complete I-49 in Alexandria.


Brother lives in Houma. I usually take 90 from the Westbank while visiting the parents to his house.

90 needs help too. A LOT of help.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39169 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:26 am to
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retirement being the biggest suck off if I had to guess.


That's not it - our retirement systems are in terrible shape. A small part of every bond - state or local - proceeds go to retirement - around 3 percent - but it's not making a difference.

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I'm not disagreeing that the situation isn't fluid, but you can't deny that they been derelict since forever. and for that reason, I'm hesitant to want to give them more.


Yes, they are derelict forever, and "cutting the budget" isn't going to save much at this point. So, then what?

The answer doesn't have to be gasoline taxes, but...

1) Texas has more toll roads than we do
2) Texas pays higher car registration fees than we do
3) Texas pays higher auto inspection fees than we do
4) The gas tax in Texas is 1/100th penny cheaper than in LA.

So, if we are going to match Texas, essentially, on the gas tax, then we need to look at the other ways Texas gets money for roads.

Personally, I believe the solution is a combination of...

1) Toll roads
2) A auto registration surcharge on electric and hybrid vehicles, to account for the fact that they aren't paying the gas tax.
This post was edited on 3/28/19 at 10:39 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39169 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:29 am to
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Louisiana is one of the highest-taxed states in the country.


False

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t also has one of the largest state governments (for its size).


We also have some of the smallest local governments in the country (for its size). Blame Huey for centralizing everything.

We are never going to fix things if we can't admit basic facts.
Posted by Ignatius Reilly
NOLA
Member since Nov 2015
151 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:29 am to
Dr. Shawn Wilson was appointed Secretary of the Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD) by Governor John Bel Edwards on January 11, 2016 after more than 10 years of executive service at DOTD.

Dr. Wilson earned a B.A. in Urban and Regional Planning from the University of Louisiana and holds a Master of Public Administration degree, as well as a Ph.D. in Public Policy from the Nelson Mandela School of Public Policy and Urban Affairs at Southern University.

DOTD Administration
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39169 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:33 am to
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To get 4 Billion dollars in La. to fix the BR metro traffic issues, you'd need to collect 21 Billion Dollars in taxes.
4 Billion EBR
8 Billion for NO metro
4 Billion for N La.
2 Billion for SW La.
1 Billion for Northshore
2 Billion for special interests and politicians.

21 Billion total


This may be one of the smartest, dead-on accurate things ever posted on the boards.

I wish I had 100 upvotes to give.

This is why we need to desperately start de-centralizing the state control here and turn control (and funds) back to local governments.

In NOLA, we have the Regional Planning Commission. Right now, one of their duties is to take chunks of money from the state and distribute it to the local parishes and cities in the NOLA region. I'd like to see that expanded to where the RPC can have their own toll road authority and taxing authorities.

If the people of EBR want to raise 4 billion for traffic issues in EBR, they should be able to form their own group, charge whatever mix of taxes and tolls they want, and build/manage their own road system.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39169 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:36 am to
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The Baton Rouge & Louisiana Congressional delegation can’t get itself together to have enough clout.


You want bacon.

And most of our congressional delegation doesn't believe in getting bacon. Clout or no clout.

We have the now minority house whip here. We have clout. But, there is no desire by our clout to bring home any bacon.

Back in the 60s and 70s, the democrats that were in the delegation from here brought home tons of bacon.

That ole embrarrasment from Houston, Shelia Jackson Lee, stays elected because she brings home more bacon than any other congresscritter in DC.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
9857 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:42 am to
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90 needs help too. A LOT of help.


Agreed...US 90 needs to be Interstate grade between Raceland and either 310 or the elevated West bank expressway. And on the western end connect to I-10/I-49.

That would solve a lot of issues, but the wizards at DOTD just put J turns on in Bayou Vista/Patterson and in Broussard. They also put a new light in Des Allemands.

That is how DOTD put band aids on projects and then tear off the band aids to once the bigger project is funded.

It is like you decided to paint your house, paint it, and then you decide to put new siding instead in less than a week.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 10:49 am to
Point. Winner.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45993 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:13 am to
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The Baton Rouge traffic problem exceeds the problem solving skills of our political class

I'm pretty sure opening a pack of gum exceeds the problem solving skills of that particular political class.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17423 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:32 am to
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Do you know if BR has ever considered an HOV lane?



HOV lanes are for feminazi environmentalist cucks
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39169 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:45 am to
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HOV lanes are for feminazi environmentalist cucks


I'm pretty sure there aren't many of those who take the HOA lane from the west bank to downtown NOLA.

This right here is why we can never have nice things. Whatever the environmental benefits are, if any, there's a practical benefit for having less cars on the roadways.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39169 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 11:46 am to
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That is how DOTD put band aids on projects and then tear off the band aids to once the bigger project is funded.

It is like you decided to paint your house, paint it, and then you decide to put new siding instead in less than a week.


Because government is set up to "do something" and people demand the government "do something" so they do the small things they can with the limited funds they are allocated.

Then, a year later, magically more money appears to actually fix the issue, rending the "small thing" a complete waste of money.

It's due to a lack of future planning and budgeting.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6841 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:05 pm to
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Because government is set up to "do something" 


I would add, government heads do not have the option to tell an elected official "no" unless it is illegal or impossible. We have had generations of politicians who think THEY will fix it and direct DOTD to do a particular study. DOTD can't say frick you we just looked at that a few years ago.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40122 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:20 pm to
After 10 years of executive service at DOTD and now 3 plus years as department head, he’s telling us it’s the fault of the previous administrations?

If seems he has been part of the problem and despite three plus years as head, his administration has done nothing more than the others have.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40122 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Back in the 60s and 70s, the democrats that were in the delegation from here brought home tons of bacon.


I was taught this in grade school, but where did the bacon go?

It didn’t go to highways. La. didn’t get a N/S interstate initially, and neither BR or NO got loops.

I think the root of most of our issues today took root in the late 60s and 70s. EBR got short changed on the interstate and it was also poorly designed. We also got a federal judge who wielded a heavy hand and forced an obstructionist school board to blow up our school system and scatter folks all over the metro area.

We are still trying to recover from these messes.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23390 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:29 pm to
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Edit: FYI it takes me 15 minutes to get from North Dallas to Las Colinas every day because of these big beautiful toll roads.

Time is money.

But I wouldn't expect someone still living in LA to understand that


you are the most annoying poster on TD and that says tons. Stay out of these threads because you have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42007 posts
Posted on 3/28/19 at 12:30 pm to
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you are the most annoying poster on TD and that says tons. Stay out of these threads because you have no idea what you are talking about.



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