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re: The average US house now requires a salary of $106k-a-year - $50k more than in 2020

Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:28 pm to
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How exactly do you suggest people “call out the bullshite” that will actually affect positive change?


As long as investors are doing ok, housing prices will never adjust.

Home ownership is primarily an investment today, which wasn't the case decades ago.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41122 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Now everyone's in debt up to their eyeballs because it looks good on Instagram. It's really very sad.


You think people are taking on student loan debt for intsagram likes?


Holy fricking shite lmao
Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
West Finger
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:29 pm to
Are you expecting people to pay a mortgage with their HSA or maternity leave?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41122 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:30 pm to
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Hopefully so, everything was much more affordable back then.


Prices rose almost 10% over the course of the trump admin. Would have been even higher if they didn’t shut the economy down.
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1797 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:31 pm to
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“ what's the median income level across the US when you exclude the 50 biggest metro areas?”

Another good question and upvote for an answer and source


According to Hud: LINK

Median 96,200
Metro 99,500
Non-Metro 76,800

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:32 pm to
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Prices rose almost 10% over the course of the trump admin. Would have been even higher if they didn’t shut the economy down.

I admire your continued support of the direction we have been under the last 3+ years.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6589 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:32 pm to
I’m 1990 and feel I got fricked hard. When I was looking for houses it was moved and stuff was 1M for a house with no central ac.

My kid will have it much harder
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11747 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:33 pm to
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The window quotes I have gotten so far are all around $30K no labor.


Damn, how many windows? I haven't sourced anything but coastal impact windows in the last 10 years and a typical vinyl egress (3052) impact window is ~$650.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:34 pm to
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You think people are taking on student loan debt for intsagram likes? Holy fricking shite lmao


I didn't say ANY student loan debt. I said people are taking on massive student loan debt because it looks good to other people.

I'm at the age where my kids and friends' kids are square in the middle of this. It is mind boggling where people are going to school without scholarships.

People talk about this like it's some badge of honor, and I'm over here telling my kids to go to community college for 2 years first. (I can completely afford to pay for their college outright.)

Baton Rouge Community College is like $4000 for 30 hours.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:35 pm to
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My kid will have it much harder



Don't you and your wife pull in 1 million per year?

I think you will be ok
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3649 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:36 pm to
I’m sure the governments solution to this will be to make it easier to get approved for a loan so that more people qualify, completely ignoring the fact that they won’t be able to keep up with payments and will end up in foreclosure
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1797 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:38 pm to
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As long as investors are doing ok, housing prices will never adjust.

Home ownership is primarily an investment today, which wasn't the case decades ago.


According to PEW trust, 1/4 of homes in 2022 were owned by corporations. I would gather that percentage is higher now. Prices will not depress until companies decide that it is not a lucrative business. My guess is that is not going to happen anytime soon, and that prices will remain high.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:39 pm to
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Damn, how many windows? I haven't sourced anything but coastal impact windows in the last 10 years and a typical vinyl egress (3052) impact window is ~$650.


31 on the main house including some huge windows and sadly a few arch windows that I hate.

5 on the guest house
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:40 pm to
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I would gather that percentage is higher now. Prices will not depress until companies decide that it is not a lucrative business.


The Pandemic provided the perfect chance for people to hop in the investment game. I dont blame them, it was there for the taking.

But it definitely hurt the first time homebuyers and still grips the market.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/21/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1797 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:46 pm to
Yup. We bought our latest house in 2018 for 522k. Houses in our neighborhood are selling for between 850-1 million. We could afford that price tag, but I wouldn't want to.

We have set up trusts for our two kids so that they will each end up having a couple of 100,000 for a downpayment on a house. We have also told them that we will pay for one degree. So they will definitely be ahead.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6589 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:46 pm to
Our income doesn’t guarantee our kid will make similar nor will it be enough for them to not work hard. The fields we are in today may not be relevant tomorrow and they have to learn new skills while paying inflated prices
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5358 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Prices rose almost 10% over the course of the trump admin.


10% inflation over FOUR years is about as good as anyone could expect. That's BELOW the historical average. Jesus, Biden and his oligarchs had 10% in one year.

Comments like this are really disturbing. There's a huge segment of the population that his been so brainwashed they would just rather see the world burn then to have their favorite political team lose, regardless of what is slapping them in the face everyday.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5565 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:48 pm to
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HSA or maternity leave



are you under the impression that these two things are what completely encompasses benefits?


Money spent in one place cannot be spent in another. A $1000/mo healthcare premium takes away from funds that could be spent on a mortgage note.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41122 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:54 pm to
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10% inflation over FOUR years is about as good as anyone could expect. That's BELOW the historical average. Jesus, Biden and his oligarchs had 10% in one year.


Which is funny because there’s a lot of regular posters who believe we should have 0% inflation and that we NEED deflation NOW.

quote:

Comments like this are really disturbing. There's a huge segment of the population that his been so brainwashed they would just rather see the world burn then to have their favorite political team lose, regardless of what is slapping them in the face everyday.


I will be voting for trump a 5th time in November.
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