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re: The average age of U.S. homebuyers jumps to 56

Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:11 pm to
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I do feel bad for younger people looking to get into the housing market, but what's the answer?


I don't feel bad for the spoiled, ignorant little shits. The answer for them is to learn to live without the sense of entitlement to an upper-middleclass lifestyle.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18956 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:11 pm to
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That’s a 2:1 ratio of home price to income. To put that to perspective, that’s like making 150k today for your same home

Zillow currently has my first house valued at $257K, which I think is a little high.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112017 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:12 pm to
shite.

This is baaaaaaaaaaaad
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6264 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:32 pm to
Yeah imagine making 130k for your home today which is 2.5x avg income. Home purchases are much harder today gramps. Let’s not pretend you guys have some high moral grounds which millennials don’t have
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:33 pm to
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The answer for them is to learn to live without the sense of entitlement to an upper-middleclass lifestyle.


these little shits need to learn to love overpaying for aging 60s ranch style houses

i know damn well i am voting to block any new home construction because it is my god given right as a home owner to see my value go up and up
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17403 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:41 pm to
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gotta inherit some money or life insurance policies to buy anything anymore



Need smart parents for that.

Smart parents are probably the most overlooked assets in a persons life. I have seen bad parents, and they typically get bad results.

I've seen good parents but not strict and routine enough so they are hit and miss.

Then you have the families that are smart. Every single person, no matter what graduates from a University, everyone. Theres never a point in any of the kids lives where there is any question as to what they have to obtain. A lot of these types of households do not even consider high school an achievement. If you can't get out of high school with a scholarship you are looked down upon not for being stupid but for not working hard enough.

Parents are way to weak on their kids these days and it literally shows in the numbers now.



This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 2:42 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:42 pm to
Housing is ridiculously high but owning a home is not a fantastic idea, especially when you are young and your career is still something you're interested in growing. Renting is outrageous but it allows far more mobility and flexibility than owning.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:44 pm to
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The average age of homebuyers in the U.S. has risen by six years since July 2023 — another sign that younger Americans are being priced out of the market due to escalating ownership costs.


Our own bloated government




I will never understand how rising home values is a bad thing. Its a fantastic thing for home owners. If it is the result of bloated government thank god for bloated government.....
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:45 pm to
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The credit industry has succeeded in making indentured servitude look like a good idea.


Pay your bills on time and you wont have a problem.

Dont spend more than you make and it shouldnt be a problem.

I 100% do not like the credit industry or the banking industry but you not paying your bills is not their fault.

People have no sense of responsibility.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
13184 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Just chill until the boomers start dying off and we have a surplus of McMansions. Home prices will drop.


Its already started....commercial investors with cash are buying at inflated prices in most markets. Rent will be high as giraffe pussy no matter who owns a building with an inflated purchase price until such time as that investor is bankrupt and then another wave of them will move in.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17403 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:46 pm to
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And the average north American suburban woman thinks that a $400k house at 7.5% is just what it takes to get by these days.


Stop marrying stupid broads.

Again, something you can prevent.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58832 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:48 pm to
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And the average north American suburban woman thinks that a $400k house at 7.5% is just what it takes to get by these days.

400k is below average

need to spend at least that to get into a good suburban school district
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:52 pm to
I’m building an off grid compound for my lineage. Will never leave my estate. If you have the means I would encourage you to do the same.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17442 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:53 pm to
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Guess I'm the outlier. I bought my first house at 24 as a single dude with no kids.

Same. Bought my first house when I was 26 in 2005 in Baton Rouge. Single, no kids. No money down and closing cost was grant money from government for first time home owner.

Wasn’t much more expensive than my rent at the time.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Member since Jan 2023
13184 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 2:56 pm to
Average home size in the US is nearly 40% bigger today than it was in 1980 and family size is nearly 20% smaller. It is damn near impossible in most of the US to find a 1500 square foot 3/2 that was the AVERAGE, not starter home, in 1980, in 2024. In all but a few markets in the US new homes are being sold regularly which are priced around $160 or so a square foot. If you reduced the square footage by the reduction in family size...1200 square feet....that would be $192K. No one would be interested in a 1200 square foot 3/2 today but it is more than enough bricks to raise 2 kids in.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:02 pm to
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Lmfao where is this 65k house that’s the price of a midsized sedan


That was in 1986 you dolt. It was 1100 sf. Of course, prices have gone up since then.

But people today can't be satisfied with 1100 sf. They want 3000 sf straight out of college.

Start small. Build some equity. Then trade up. It takes time and patience.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40117 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:11 pm to
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They want 3000 sf straight out of college.
I can't name a single person I went to college or grad school with who desired a 3k suburban family house at 22-25. Pretty much every person wanted an apt/condo in/near the city.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13184 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:16 pm to
I bought my first home in 1988 for $45,000. 985 square feet 3/1. I spent about $10K on it when I first bought it to update it to what was considered current finishes. My wife and I sold that house in 1996 for $82,000. It is now valued at $211K which is about $50K more than inflation over the same period of time. A lot of that difference is due to location....when we bought it the area was going downhill...when we sold it that was starting to change. When gas prices surged the entire area took off like gangbusters because its less than 15 minutes from the downtown connector in Cobb County. A lot of that increase is due to increased home size in the area...many of those homes that size in that area have been torn down and larger homes built in their place. You can't build on that lot today, it is on a septic tank and the water line crosses the lot behind it. Actually runs under the foundation of the house behind it.

There are very few buyers interested in buying a 3/1 under 1000 square feet today. When this house was built it as a lockheed mill house. There had been 3 families raised in that little house when we bought it. Most buyers today would not even considerate it. Its value has outpaced inflation but that is due as much to increased expectations of new home buyers and a surge in home prices resulting in people looking to live closer to downtown than it is anything. That house is not unique...there are several hundred still in that area. The only buyers are investors. No one is interested in a 1000 sq foot 3/1 as a starter home. It is nearly unthinkable to most buyers.

Edited to add - I was making what amounts to about $54k a year today when I bought that house. It was a STRUGGLE LOL. I think the mortgage payment was about $540 a month with taxes, insurance, interest and PMI....I paid about $5k down on it. I was single at the time. Thats about $14K down today and about $1400 a month. I think the interest rate was just under 10% but I would not swear to it. I suspect someone could get in a similar house in that area, for around $15K down and around $1600 a month now and would have more than a few homes that size to choose from....they just aren't interested.
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6264 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:21 pm to
Where are these 3/1 1k sq ft houses now days? A condo maybe
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58832 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 3:27 pm to
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Where are these 3/1 1k sq ft houses now days?
the ghetto
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 3:28 pm
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