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re: The amount of old people I see working menial jobs these days is way too high

Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7711 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:19 pm to
The only people who believe it’s any other generations fault other than boomers and what followed is those specific old people who blaming everyone else. Work harder get paid more rihht!? Company is everything right!?
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7711 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:20 pm to
Dang millennials keep ruing it for the old people lmao. Old people are delusional
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22286 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:22 pm to
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Some of them are probably bored.


I know this to be the case for a few of the older people I know. They're still physically and mentally sharp enough to do something and they don't want to sit at home and wither away.

Some work full time jobs at places like wal-mart where the medical insurance is actually good. I don't know the impact that has on Medicare, though.

Some people do need a little bit of money to get by, though, and to me that's sad.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58831 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:47 pm to
Dude, if you are in the older generation you had lifetime employment and benefits.

Had a friend who taught college. At age 50 they got dumped so they could pay a TA to teach an upper level math / science type class. No benefits or living wage for the TA of course. My friend had to get 3 - 4 jobs to cover about 1/2 of what they used to make. By 65 and a new minimal life they were doing 60 hrs a week till the stress took its toll and their heart crapped out (one drug is 600 a month and no generic). 10 years later and now close to homeless has finally gotten to medicaid.

Salad years, dude is living the life of Riley!

Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3712 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:50 pm to
No way am I reading 16 pages of this slop.

Here is the answer......

The vast majority of our population is reckless.
The vast majority of our population doesn't save.
The vast majority of our population lives outside of their means.
The vast majority of our population lives paycheck to paycheck.

I know so many people who are on a path to be burdens to their own children. Shame on them.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24791 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 1:58 pm to
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I know so many people who are on a path to be burdens to their own children. Shame on them.


Caring for an elderly parent or grandparent or aunt or uncle is not a burden, it’s a responsibility and the natural order of things. Some of our elderly may be able to afford healthcare and to pay others for the services they will need, most won’t be able to do so. It’s not because they are bad people or did anything wrong, it’s how it’s always been and will always be.

Go cut your grandparents grass when they can’t so they won’t have to hire someone, go clean their house when they can’t for the same reason, get them a fridge full of groceries when they can’t, you might even find a bit of joy or learn something new in the process.

The elderly are not a burden.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:00 pm to
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I know so many people who are on a path to be burdens to their own children. Shame on them.


Spoken like an entitled zoomer.

I'd have loved to have taken care of my mom before she passed.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
60851 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:05 pm to
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I know so many people who are on a path to be burdens to their own children. Shame on them.



No sir… shame on you and all of those of your ilk. That has been the way it has been for a very long time in western, and eastern societies, to take care of your elderly family members later in life. It’s only this self absorbed generation that sees it as too much of a burden, because God forbid a loved one ever put you out and get in your way. What an ugly group of people our society has become, a really spoiled and ugly people. Such a society is simply not sustainable long term.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:07 pm to
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No sir… shame on you and all of those of your ilk


He's a party boi.
Posted by Sal Minio
17th Street Canal
Member since Sep 2006
4308 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Caring for an elderly parent or grandparent or aunt or uncle is not a burden, it’s a responsibility and the natural order of things. Some of our elderly may be able to afford healthcare and to pay others for the services they will need, most won’t be able to do so. It’s not because they are bad people or did anything wrong, it’s how it’s always been and will always be.

Go cut your grandparents grass when they can’t so they won’t have to hire someone, go clean their house when they can’t for the same reason, get them a fridge full of groceries when they can’t, you might even find a bit of joy or learn something new in the process.

The elderly are not a burden.



Well put Dawgfanman.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51721 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:10 pm to
I suspect my dad will live with us at some point. He's single and we are the logical ones to take care of him when/if that time comes. He's financially comfortable but my wife and I have already discussed it. I won't consider it a burden.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30881 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:11 pm to
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No savings baw?


We have some but nowhere near enough. I became a father at 22 with only an associates degree in general studies, things were very bleak at the beginning but we are now in the Top 10% for household income and we are trying to make up lost time.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51721 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:15 pm to
I know the feeling. I had 2 kids in daycare and a mortgage at 27. I've been working on getting us to about where we should have been for 10 years. It's doable if you have the luxury of time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:16 pm to
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I suspect my dad will live with us at some point. He's single and we are the logical ones to take care of him when/if that time comes. He's financially comfortable but my wife and I have already discussed it. I won't consider it a burden.


If my kids decided to come live with me and bring the grandkids, Id get a bigger house on the bay and have a great time. I bring grandkids up for summer anyway.

Family cross generational living isn't a bad thing as long as there are accepted protocols and people pull their weight, as they are able.. It could solve a lot of issues peolpe currently have.

But progressivism is trying to free people from the burden of family. Seriously.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Finklesteins Kid
ATL
Member since May 2021
629 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:24 pm to
At least they can fricking spell
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
760 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:39 pm to
Both my parents are in their mid 60's and retired. They worked menial jobs their entire life and they get $1,700/month combined and they're doing ok. They can't take vacations or anything like that.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57876 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:46 pm to
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It’s only this self absorbed generation that sees it as too much of a burden
is that why the number of nursing homes in this country exploded in 1970s and late 90s/early 2000s?
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56312 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:50 pm to
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You better be in excellent health to retire in remote Montana.


frick
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
2711 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:59 pm to
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People also don't take into account proximity to health care when they think about retiring. You better be in excellent health to retire in remote Montana. Trips to specialists and hospitals are not close.

???
This is very true. When we were looking at locations to spend the summers during retirement we looked solely at college towns that had infrastructure. We wanted a walkable downtown, country clubs, nearby airport, hospitals/doctors, and mild summers.
We dwindled the list to Ithaca, NY; Burlington, VT; Madison, WI; Boulder, CO; and Boise, ID.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57876 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:02 pm to
I’ve always though college towns (of major universities) are the ideal place for a retiree (and honestly most people) to live

Walkable areas with coffee shops and whatnot, going to have lots of trees and gardens, hospital system, entertainment, culture
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