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re: The amount of old people I see working menial jobs these days is way too high

Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:15 am to
No I’d call the fact that it seems to bother so many of the younger crowd a value issue lol

ETA: the tone of disgust and judgment coming from the younger posters is quite interesting. Why does it bother y’all so badly that people over 65 work?
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51721 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:15 am to
Most Americans live beyond their means when they are working.

Gotta have the nice house, 60k SUV and expensive vacations so you can post it on Facebook
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75057 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:16 am to
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No I’d call the fact that it seems to bother so many of the younger crowd a value issue lol
It should bother everyone.

The elderly shouldn’t have to hold down a full time job to survive day to day.

That is an incredibly sad situation.

I’m not sure what you are arguing here.
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ETA: the tone of disgust and judgment coming from the younger posters is quite interesting. Why does it bother y’all so badly that people over 65 work?
Again, it is the motivation behind it.

Like I said, my grandfather worked until he was in his 90s because he wanted to, not because he needed to.

My dad will likely do the same thing. He won’t have to, but it keeps him busy and fit.

That is completely different than having to do it into your 80s and 90s to survive.

That is sad.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 10:19 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
104043 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:17 am to
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I disagree.

Yes, there are a multitude of factors, but the largest factor is likely their own spending and saving habits.


We’re talking about the last generation that was largely able to live on a single-income (and many did) so you have a decent amount of women who outlived their husbands but likely never had much experience in the workforce.

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That is a whole different situation than the average individual, IMO.


Again, have to disagree. It’s not uncommon, particularly for middle class/blue collar folks, to see their savings wiped out over medical bills.

Especially if you were blue collar working manual labor. Which there were a lot more of those jobs in their younger years that were enough for a living wage. And significantly more wear and tear than a desk job.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:17 am to
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Breakdown of the family structure and normal order of things. They should be living with relatives and helping care for the young people in their extended family. Instead they are alone and struggling to make ends meet. Meanwhile their family is spread across the country and paying some stranger to care for their young children.


Throw in the that in.. that body part transplants ( hearts...knees ...hips) have fairly quickly progressed and so has the quality of life for 70 yr olds... But planning for that quality of life was difficult back in 1995
Then throw in that two rolls of paper towels costs nearly 10 bucks... People are able to work longer and... Have to ( and it's not just poor planning on in their part.)
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:18 am to
That and someone has to pay taxes and the number of those seeking handouts increases

I just thank them for continuing to contribute more to the good of our community than the average 20-24 year old does
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53310 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:22 am to
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the tone of disgust and judgment coming from the younger posters is quite interesting.


You're being a bit dramatic here.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:22 am to
I’m arguing the looking down your nose tone that some posters seem to have about the topic.

If you’re coming from a viewpoint of compassion and interest in helping a social problem then it sounds a little differently than some of the posts in this thread.

Some folks sound like judgmental assholes and I think that sucks especially since it’s probably an unemployed college student hurling the ridicule at people who have worked to support generations and generations in this nation
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
12887 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:23 am to
Spent about half my career in the development/gold course industry. We always had a handful of retired guys that showed up around 6 to wipe down the golf carts, pull them around, help people with clubs etc. Then in the afternoon they played golf most days just paying cart fees. It worked out great for us and them.

Personally I’d rather work on the grounds crew for 4-5 hours, but my point is there are some great opportunities for retirees that want to stay active and make a little spending money.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8309 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:25 am to
Yes, there are many that need the money. But, more than most know, do it for the social aspect and to maintain their sanity.

If you are single or lost your spouse, you can't just sit home or you are going to die pretty soon. We need social interactions and an easy job with part time hours allows one to feel like they are still relevant and loved.

Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:25 am to
So are the people assuming they know why people choose to work.

Bottom line is some do bc they have to and some do bc they want to.

Regardless thank people for working. They are becoming less and less common
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38636 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Spent about half my career in the development/gold course industry. We always had a handful of retired guys that showed up around 6 to wipe down the golf carts, pull them around, help people with clubs etc. Then in the afternoon they played golf most days just paying cart fees. It worked out great for us and them. Personally I’d rather work on the grounds crew for 4-5 hours, but my point is there are some great opportunities for retirees that want to stay active and make a little spending money.


See this is the type of “BSing with friends/customers” old person job that I can see a retiree doing to get out of the house and be social.

Not shopping for a stranger’s groceries and dropping them off on their porch with near zero human interaction.
Posted by Cregg
Orange Beach
Member since Jul 2017
2327 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:27 am to
My grandfather retired 5 years ago and got a part time job two weeks later doing handyman stuff. He's still at the complex and is treated like a frickin king.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53310 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:27 am to
quote:

So are the people assuming they know why people choose to work.

Bottom line is some do bc they have to and some do bc they want to.

Regardless thank people for working. They are becoming less and less common



I think you're missing the entire point.

You shouldn't have to work at a certain age.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:29 am to
What if the individual wants to work?

Is that ok?

Yes of course, elderly shouldn’t HAVE to work. I shouldn’t have to support unemployed, lazy people who want hand outs at every turn either.

What do you propose we do about it ?
Posted by Tusksup
Sheridan, AR
Member since Feb 2023
1520 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:30 am to
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I'll retire and work at Bass Pro in order to get the discount.


I worked at sports unlimited for awhile in college. I had the same plan as you, save money with the discount. I spent way more than I made. I still have some of that tackle to this day.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 10:44 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53310 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:30 am to
quote:

What if the individual wants to work?

Is that ok?


Who in this thread is judging people who want to work?

quote:

Yes of course, elderly shouldn’t HAVE to work. I shouldn’t have to support unemployed, lazy people who want hand outs at every turn either.

What do you propose we do about it ?


Well well, who is the judgmental person now?
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 10:30 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75057 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:30 am to
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You shouldn't have to work at a certain age.
Exactly.

Originally, that was where family came in, along with savings.

Then, SS came about, along with job related things like pension plans.

Now, none of those are sustaining the elderly generations.

We are seeing individuals being forced to work way into their twilight years.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
6521 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:31 am to
I’m sure some do it for the extra money, but I do know many who get a part time job to keep active and going.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15098 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:34 am to
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The older you get, the more your competition dies off. Probably a popular guy with his set if he still has a pulse.

He slays. Still drives at night and has a house on 30A. A couple posters on here know him IRL, they can chime in if they want. Dude used to go hunting at the Red Bar. fricking legend.
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