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re: The 50-year mortgage is a good idea actually

Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:08 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:08 am to
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When you have a loan that shows the rate will go from a 6% to a 12% in three years and you claimed as a janitor you make 30k a mnth to buy that million dollar home then you are a dumbarse

The type of person who needs a 50-year mortgage are the same people you're talking about, here.

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No one is telling them that.



That is one of your main points defending this bad decision.

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. If life changes and it will they can adjust.

And this one-sided view. Life is just as likely to change towards the negative, like housing prices any given year.

What do you tell the people who either experience negative housing values when they need to sell/refi or face bad life change s(losing job and need to move, etv.) and they can't refi? Or if they get hit with a $30k roof in year 2 they can't afford?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:11 am to
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The type of person who needs a 50-year mortgage are the same people you're talking about, here.



No its not

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That is one of your main points defending this bad decision.



No its not. Buying a home is never a bad decision

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And this one-sided view


Its a proven fact view

You are Diana Olynick when it comes to this debate
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 7:13 am
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:12 am to
quote:

Buying a home is never a bad decision
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:13 am to
Great arguement
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:15 am to
It's so laughably stupid it doesn't deserve a response
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:21 am to
You are the one who said no one refis to a higher rate

You have to be one of the dumbest posters ever
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463637 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:26 am to
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No its not. Buying a home is never a bad decision

Bro wtf
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92279 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:30 am to
What are you confused about Diana

You can always tell who doesnt own a property

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463637 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:32 am to
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What are you confused about Diana

You can always tell who doesnt own a property


Have you never had a friend/acquaintance who was house poor?

Through my work I've seen PLENTY of examples of buying a house being a terrible decision for those people.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170130 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:34 am to
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Have you never had a friend/acquaintance who was house poor?

Or seen a downturn in the housing market

There are people in Austin who bought in 2022 that are severely underwater on their homes
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4835 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:39 am to
Would you buy a manufactured home with a 50 year mortgage?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92279 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:41 am to
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There are people in Austin who bought in 2022 that are severely underwater on their homes


Are they selling their home?

This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 7:43 am
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:42 am to
To all the 50 year loan advocates: let me tell you, paying off a mortgage should be the goal of every homeowner. Life gets much easy with no house note.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170130 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:43 am to
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Are they selling there home?

Presumably some of them are or are being foreclosed on

shite happens in life. I know this might seem like an earth shattering revelation to you but sometimes people get laid off and can't afford to pay their mortgage on unemployment.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92279 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:47 am to
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Presumably some of them are or are being foreclosed on

shite happens in life.


Why would they sell. Why are they being forclosed on when they can just modify and rent the home.

Also very weird I was told by SFP that ppl stay in a home loan for 50yrs or a house for 50yrs and shite doesnt happen in life

Further proof that majority of ppl do not stay in a home loan longer than 7yrs so who cares about a 50yr loan

Thanks for proving me right
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170130 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:49 am to
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Why would they sell. Why are they being forclosed on when they can just modify and rent the home.

I don't know

But the shite happens

Look at this listing

LINK

2023 list price was 425K and presumably sold for less

Listed for sale in April for 449,900

It has sat on the market and the list price has already cratered to $389K

Obviously it was an awesome decision to buy when they did right?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56654 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:50 am to
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However, it’s better than renting perpetually because you can’t afford to get into a house.


False. A 50 year mortgage is perpetual renting, just called something different. Unless you have some grand plans when you're 80 and you have that house finally paid off!

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You’ll at least gain a small amount of equity, and you’ll also stabilize your housing payment for the coming years.


bullshite. It will raise home prices across the board. Ever bought a car? Ever wonder how the salesman can always magically come down to your number? Just like with cars, the mortgages will be tailored to make everything "affordable" as long as you are paying in perpetuity. So instead of a $2000/month 30 year note, you get to pay a $1600/month 50 year note. What a deal...

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In summary, 50-year mortgage is not as good as a 30-year mortgage but still better than renting.


It will cause another housing crisis, and will cause the left to usher in full government control of housing loans. Surely, no one can predict a problem with that....
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92279 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:56 am to
You posted a property owned by an LLC

So some investor who tried to get a quick buck

If your plan is 2yrs then yeah you can get burned

All of you claimed everyone stays in a loan for the entire term

What a clown show you are
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4917 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 7:58 am to
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People have this "rent is throwing money away" mindset that's so simplistic.



It's as ingrained in the psyche of many on the same level as the "Social security is MY money" stuff.




I am with you on the first part, and i agree .. sometimes buying a house is a terrible move, you can lose money, be house poor or encounter myriad other issues .


But on your second statement- ive always presumed that SS is money that i and my employer paid into , out of every single paycheck i earn for decades on end- so that one day i can collect a consistent check that will help supplement my retirement when im too old to work - ie ‘my money’… what am i missing ?
Posted by justokatgolf
Louisiana
Member since May 2023
80 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 8:09 am to
Why do 50 years if you can make larger payments?
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