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re: Thanks Nola.com for letting us know about restaurants that are requiring vax proof

Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:43 pm to
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Among the 469 cases in Massachusetts residents, 346 (74%) occurred in persons who were fully vaccinated



When 80% of the people there are vaccinated of course 75% of the cases are gonna be in vaccinated people. The viral load thing is meaningless, like 5 of the vaccinated people that got it in the link you're referencing had to go to the hospital, none died. So the vaccine worked like its supposed to.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 8:45 pm
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10536 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:46 pm to
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Notice the subtle expression of superiority while totally ignoring the question. Politics in this one's future.


One is choice and one is not.

No race is signaled out. People that choose not to follow a private company's rules are singled out.

I was wrong. You really can be this stupid.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4460 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:48 pm to
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that Antifa sympathizer that runs La Boca is quoted in the article.


this is the part that hurts. i cannot go to a restaurant that is fantastic.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12064 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:55 pm to
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People that choose not to follow a private company's rules are singled out.


You mean like when a private company doesn’t want to bake a certain cake?
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5769 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:56 pm to
Linking to the same bull crap study from Provincetown Mass during a party week. CDC using that as their sole reason for this crap.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10536 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:57 pm to
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You mean like when a private company doesn’t want to bake a certain cake?


A strawman argument as a rebuttal. Solid.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12064 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:57 pm to
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So the vaccine worked like its supposed to.


Vaccines are supposed to prevent you from catching a virus, not lessen the symptoms. That’s what medicine does.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 8:58 pm to
There are breakthrough infections with every vaccine.

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No vaccine is 100% effective. Dr. Jonas Salk’s polio vaccine was 80%-90% effective in preventing paralytic disease. Even for the gold standard measles vaccine, the efficacy was 94% among a highly vaccinated population during large outbreaks.


Also

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Overall, the data found that breakthrough events are extremely rare among those who are fully vaccinated, and that the vast majority of reported COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths in U.S. are among those who are unvaccinated
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12064 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:00 pm to
I don’t think you know what that phrase means.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12064 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:02 pm to
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There are breakthrough infections with every vaccine.


What are the percentages of breakthrough infections of say the flu vaccine as opposed to the covid vaccine?
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20129 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:04 pm to
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Can you take a picture with your phone or do you have to bring your actual card (which is too big for your wallet) and risk losing it?

Wouldn’t be surprised if that works fine. You can also use the LA wallet app and load your card in there

Or just printout multiple copies of the one you bought on the dark web
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81209 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:05 pm to
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like 5 of the vaccinated people that got it in the link you're referencing had to go to the hospital, none died. So the vaccine worked like its supposed to.


Right. So how does this tie into needing to be vaccinated to protect others? It protected the vaccinated. So as long as those with vaccines are protected, and both vaccinated and unvaccinated people can spread it anyway, why does it matter if others around them are or aren't?

This thread is about restaurants requiring vaccines to keep their vaccinated staff and vaccinated patrons safe.

I just am not seeing where it is necessary for other patrons to be vaccinated for those folks to be safe, if the vaccine works for those who are vaccinated.

^ BTW, this is a genuine question. I'm not claiming or stating anything as fact. I'm legitimately asking why I must be vaccinated to ensure the safety of someone else that is supposedly already protected by their own vaccine.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:10 pm
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20129 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:05 pm to
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Restaurants just are screwing themselves out of an already depressed business...

Latoya lovers and COVIDtards might actually like this
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:05 pm to
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While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60%



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A study recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that two doses of Pfizer's shot was 88 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic disease from the delta variant, compared to 93.7 per cent effective against the alpha variant, broadly the same as previously reported.


Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12064 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:10 pm to
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A study recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that two doses of Pfizer's shot was 88 per cent effective at preventing symptomatic disease from the delta variant, compared to 93.7 per cent effective against the alpha variant, broadly the same as previously reported.


How is that possible if 75% of the people testing positive in Massachusetts are vaccinated. It’s gotta be damn near zero percent everywhere else right? And Massachusetts, one of the most vaccinated states, is just an outlier?

I’m just curious how the NEJOM has already done a scientific study on a variant that’s been around a couple months.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
8515 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:10 pm to
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A strawman argument as a rebuttal. Solid.


It isn't strawnan. It's a valid comparison.

Same people saying private business can do what they want say cake has to be baked by a private business.

It's valid and it's hypocrisy.

Same with race even though you don't want to hear it. If you think a private business should be able to discriminate then they can discriminate. Picking and choosing basis of discrimination based on your opinion isn't how it works. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has for one.

Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39955 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:11 pm to
Fewer customers plus loss of UE benefits gonna make for an interesting next couple of months for the restaurant industry.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2982 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:13 pm to
I’ve vaccinated and I think most of you are foolish for not getting at least one of the vaccines.

But I am fundamentally against what these restaurants are doing. Your vaccination status should not be the basis of discriminatory behavior.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2982 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:14 pm to
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You mean like when a private company doesn’t want to bake a certain cake?


Customized product is a different animal IMO.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 9:18 pm to
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How is that possible if 75% of the people testing positive in Massachusetts are vaccinated.


It's because about 80% of people in that area are vaccinated, so of course most of cases they have are gonna be in vaccinated people.

If 100% of people are vaccinated in an area then 100% of the cases of people from that area would be in vaccinated people.



This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 9:20 pm
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