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re: Texas High School expels student for not reciting pledge

Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20504 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:24 pm to
Don't you know? Life is hard...

Time to protest. My friends on facebook told me so.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:30 pm to
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quote:

her law teacher told her she was disrespectful, 


HS law teacher?

2. Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District

Another SCOTUS ruling that could apply here.

Tinker Test
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Did the speech or expression of the student "materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school?"


If the student failed to stand prior and it was allowed then only after it became a disruption punished the student then the school may have a case.

quote:

sat through the daily Pledge of Allegiance some 200 times as a form of protest, 


Sounds like the school allowed it until it just became a distraction

Just playing devils advocate here....
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 8:40 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:08 pm to
It’s hilarious watching all the conservatives get bent out of shape about something a socialist wrote.

Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3386 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:11 pm to
Next step will be rounding up all the Jehova's Witnesses for not standing or saying the pledge or standing for the National Anthem.

These screwballs are climbing a slippery slope. Better to leave such shite alone and let that ONE person alone.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:12 pm to
Francis Bellamy was a socialist Baptist minister?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:18 pm to
“The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by the socialist minister Francis Bellamy (1855-1931). It was originally published in The Youth's Companion on September 8, 1892. Bellamy had hoped that the pledge would be used by citizens in any country.”

original form it read:

"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
In 1923, the words, "the Flag of the United States of America" were added.

It wasn’t till the 50s that under god was added.

Somehow this nation survived and thrived without acknowledging god.
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:42 pm to
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You don't want to be here, you are free to leave.


You folks that keep saying this nonsense... let me ask you this:

Why should we allow schools to compel kids to say the pledge...in a country where the government can’t compel anyone to say anything? We don’t even make criminals say things when they don’t want to.

How do you reconcile that?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 9:56 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79444 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:09 pm to
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Its really a disservice to the people who died to defend the right to disagree and freedom of expression.


Ehh, I think as kids guidelines and rules should be followed. Schools have dress codes and other rules that keep you from expressing yourself.



Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:10 pm to
This country is full on retarded.

Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31191 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:34 pm to
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What say the OT?

If they can force you to wear uniforms, they can do this too

She'll also be facing a very conservative supreme court. One member of which is getting torched right now using the guise of "free speech"
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:36 pm to
Wrong. Completely wrong.

And those conservatives aren’t going to support it.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39770 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 12:45 am to
The Pledge was written by a socialist who wanted all children to pledge fealty to the state. There's nothing conservative about forcing someone to recite a declaration to prove their patriotism.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28412 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:03 am to
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The Pledge was written by a socialist who wanted all children to pledge fealty to the state. There's nothing conservative about forcing someone to recite a declaration to prove their patriotism.



Yep, I felt my nazi coming out in me saying the pledge back in school. That 15 seconds of saying the pledge every morning was traumatic.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53293 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 7:53 am to
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That 15 seconds of saying the pledge every morning was traumatic.


It wasn't traumatic, but it was certainly meaningless to 99.9% of students.
Posted by Anfield Road
Home of the Blue Turf
Member since May 2012
1948 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 9:52 am to
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"Small government conservatives" sure seem to like unthinking fealty to a sovereign nation and think it should be demanded of minors.


The pledge was written by a socialist.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28412 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 9:55 am to
Lots of things are meaningless.

Why is patriotism such an evil thing now?

People are assholes with too much free time.

Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55371 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 9:58 am to
Unconsitutional. She had the right not to say the Pledge or stand up. Jehovah Witnesses and Amish don’t.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:08 am to
And yet it is conservatives melting over those who don’t.

That is the funny part.
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
55706 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:09 am to
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Always thought pledging allegiance to a flag was weird to being with.


What?
Posted by Eriq Killmonger
7th Ward, Wakanda
Member since Sep 2018
424 posts
Posted on 9/27/18 at 10:10 am to
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Texas High School expels student for not reciting pledge



Texas hates freedom. frick that principal. Why the frick do these arse hole make someone recite a pledge every morning. If you pledge to something once you shouldn't have to do it every day of your educational career. The pledge has not stopped one single person from committing treason against America. Hell the same cousin frickers on here that detest people who "hate america" are the same ones who fly the flag of a group of people who separated themselves from the Union. I hate hypocrisy with a passion.
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