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re: Tethered Aerostat Radar Balloon on Hwy 90

Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by EA6B
TX
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:20 pm to
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One broke away several years ago up in the NE. VA I think.


I forgot about that, I had thought they were all along South. Looking at those that are still active on Google Earth is pretty cool, they are at 18,000 feet or so and you are looking down at the balloon.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:21 pm to
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One broke away several years ago up in the NE. VA I think. Was supposed to be “impossible” for it to get loose. Thing was drifting along dragging the cable and tore up all kinds of private property and power lines.


I read on Wiki that they had up to 25,000 feet of cable on them. I would think the cable would have to be around 1 1/2 to 2 inches in diameter. With 2,000 pounds of floating payload dragging it I bet it did quite a lot of damage.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:26 pm to
I think that blimp in PA crashed on its own and they used shotguns to deflate it once it was stationary in the woods.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:43 pm to
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I think that blimp in PA crashed on its own and they used shotguns to deflate it once it was stationary in the woods.



That's how it reads in the article. They say that even a rifle shot to one won't bring it down.

Probably tested this theory on the one in Louisiana. I could see some duck hunters taking shots at it.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 7:49 pm to
They used to do anal probes in that thing. They gave you a bottle of water on the way out though, so overall it wasn’t too bad.
Posted by reverendotis
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 8:25 pm to
It was in Glencoe off 83. Drove by it for years.

One of our foremen lived basically across the street from it. He & his wife liked to sit outside naked in their hot tub and made it a point to shoot the bird up at that thing every time he did so.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

quote: Used for drug interdiction?

All of them but one were for downward looking radar to spot low flying planes coming in over the Gulf of Mexico and the western border area.

One of the two in the Florida Keys is used for TV broadcasting beamed at Cuba, Anti Castro, communism type stuff probably funded by the CIA.


In the early 2000s, there were 2 or 3 on Cudjoe Key, which is near Key West. "Fat Albert" was the name given to the original by locals.

In addition to radar, and broadcasting/jamming, I was told that one or more had cameras similar to those used on U-2s. Supposedly, these cameras could see to, or near, Cuba. If these things go up to ~20,000', I'd imagine that might be high enough to see 80 or 90 miles over the horizon. (Or no. However, I have no doubt the correct answer will be posted shortly.)
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 8:43 pm to
At 20,000 feet the human eye could see around 175 miles if viewing something at MSL.

Distance from Cudjoe Key to Havana is 121 miles. So it was definitely possible.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12548 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:02 pm to
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Used for drug interdiction?


This is what I was always told as a kid. Don't know the legitimacy of that claim.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59352 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

would think the cable would have to be around 1 1/2 to 2 inches in diameter. With 2,000 pounds of floating payload dragging it I bet it did quite a lot of damage.


2 inched at minimum, those cables could have torn through a house with that kind of drag

I had no idea these kind of radar balloons even existed, pretty interesting stuff
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 10:20 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:21 pm to
I remember seeing these in Afghanistan

When the weather would get bad or was changing it would get taken down

Nothing like a dust storm
Posted by ChuckM
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2006
1713 posts
Posted on 12/27/17 at 10:48 pm to
Flying out of Lafayette going offshore, every helicopter pilot we had with IHI was sure to stay on the east side of Hwy 90. More than one told similar stories about avoiding the exclusion zone, and what happened a time or two when they didnt. Something about jets flying by and checking them out as well as a stern warning when they landed.
Posted by Bustedsack
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 12:14 am to
This resembles my nutt sack
Posted by redstick13
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41391 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:06 am to
Your nutt sack has a long string dangling from it?
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
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41391 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:08 am to
quote:

I remember seeing these in Afghanistan


Were they these?

LINK
Posted by CPT Tiger
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:46 am to
The ones you see overseas are PTDS versions.

Can carry multiple imagery payloads can sustain for 20 days or so before coming down for maintenance for roughly 24 hours

Barring weather

Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41391 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:16 am to
Found some more interesting airships I never knew existed on Lockheed's website.

quote:

HIGH ALTITUDE AIRSHIP (HAA®)

The High Altitude Airship is an unmanned, untethered, lighter-than-air vehicle operating autonomously in the stratosphere for sustained, ultra long endurance missions as a stable, geostationary platform suitable for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) and communications.




LINK
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:20 am to
Sounds like it

But the pictures in the thread match my recollection or description of it
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