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re: Testing your kids for Gifted/Talented classes
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:46 pm to real turf fan
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:46 pm to real turf fan
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was in advanced or honors classes from 8th grade on. It was so nice not to be held back by the kids who weren't very good academically. Some days when the teachers were out, I got to teach classes I'd taken the year before.
I'm a bit confused on everyone saying they were in honors classes. Were honors classes not offered to your high school to non-gifted people?
We had AP classes and honors that I took and GT was not a pre-requisite.
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:47 pm to slackster
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I know you're looking for serious responses now, but your OP came in a little hot. You said it was bullshite and gifted kids are weird.
Fair enough. I did go a little too crass.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:48 pm to Walking the Earth
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Walking the Earth
Everything this guy just said is bullshite.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:49 pm to EA6B
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Students are admitted based on IQ and other tests
Around here, there is only one test. I don't know if it's an "IQ test" or not.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:50 pm to lsunurse
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Before I was placed in GT I can remember me and a couple other kids finishing first before the other slower regular kids.
Finishing faster and being bored isn't really an indicator of being gifted, necessarily. I was tested and didn't get GT, but I was a high achiever (by grades) and would be bored/finished early, etc.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:52 pm to StringedInstruments
Sorry, everybody in gifted isn't a genius.
Neither were you.
Neither were you.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:52 pm to EA6B
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ONe benefit is the opportunity to tailor the "difficulty" of the material to the individual student's ability and interests.
This is how all education should be, but instead we mass-produce idiots.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:52 pm to Moustache
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I'm a bit confused on everyone saying they were in honors classes. Were honors classes not offered to your high school to non-gifted people?
We had AP classes and honors that I took and GT was not a pre-requisite.
I can't speak for everyone else, but most kids in our G/T program took honors/advanced classes when possible, but it was often with kids who weren't in G/T too. Also, we had a few kids in G/T who took regular classes instead of honors.
G/T was a different animal entirely. It broadly replaced our literature classes. It was one hour of many during the day.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:52 pm to Moustache
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I was tested and didn't get GT
ETA: sorry...you set yourself up saying that people in gifted were weird
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:54 pm to Moustache
I’m just messing with you. My son has been invited for GT testing. He didn’t score the necessary deviations above mean but was well above average. It doesn’t mean he’s not bright or talented, and we are still very proud of him.
Why not allow the testing, it’s a free IQ test.
Why not allow the testing, it’s a free IQ test.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:55 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:Salty.
Sorry, everybody in gifted isn't a genius.
Neither were you.
Gifted programs were almost universally built around IQ tests, but they're starting to become open to more subjective means as well.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:57 pm to lsunurse
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orry...you set yourself up saying that people in gifted were weird
Well, some of them in my class were weird and it even says they may be "eccentric" or "unique" in the paperwork the teacher sent home.
Real talk, this is my worry. If he doesn't get it and his peers do, is he going to feel stupid because that's kind of how it's framed.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:57 pm to slackster
What do I have to be salty about?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:58 pm to Moustache
I am a genius and was always at the top of my class. GT kids need to be completely separated from the mouth breathers and given their own curriculum and social structure. If your GT program consists of only giving them periodic classes or meetings, it isn't worth the effort, imo.
Remember that schools are designed for average people, not smart people. Many smart people languish in our shitty school system.
Remember that schools are designed for average people, not smart people. Many smart people languish in our shitty school system.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:58 pm to Moustache
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Real talk, this is my worry. If he doesn't get it and his peers do, is he going to feel stupid because that's kind of how it's framed.
IDK your kid, but I doubt it.
Alternatively, if he's not tested, and is actually a gifted student, then you're impeding his development. That seems like it should trump the concerns over his pride for 2 seconds.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:58 pm to AUstar
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Remember that schools are designed for average people, not smart people. Many smart people languish in our shitty school system.
While I agree, smart doesn't necessarily= gifted/talented.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:59 pm to slackster
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Alternatively, if he's not tested, and is actually a gifted student, then you're impeding his development. That seems like it should trump the concerns over his pride for 2 seconds.
You're probably right on that front.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 7:59 pm to Moustache
I would say let him get tested. And then see what happens. You never know what kind of doors he could open later on because he was in GT. Might be something he can put on a scholarship application later on.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:00 pm to Moustache
I was in gifted and talented for a few months in high school and then got out.
Hated it. All they did was pile extra work on us. Some of it was fun, but most was not.
Best part was I found out I have a 155 IQ
Hated it. All they did was pile extra work on us. Some of it was fun, but most was not.
Best part was I found out I have a 155 IQ
Posted on 11/9/17 at 8:02 pm to Moustache
I think you can reasonably conclude there is more downside to not testing him than there is to testing him. You can always take him out if you see no benefit, but I think it would be nice to know one way or the other.
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