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Posted on 6/9/19 at 8:43 am to agregime1
Too bad it won’t be under 50k. They’ll only build to 100k+ models
Posted on 6/9/19 at 10:15 am to Tempratt
quote:What do you mean by viable?
They have a long way to go before any purely electric car is viable
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:17 am to shel311
Did you really just use resale value as a pro of buying a Tesla? Lol
Posted on 6/9/19 at 11:58 am to wutangfinancial
quote:Are you stating Teslas don't hold value better than comparable cars?
Did you really just use resale value as a pro of buying a Tesla? Lol
You've posted enough "facts" in this thread that were very incorrect, not really sure it's worth another back and forth if you're going to continue with more incorrect statements.
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:00 pm to shel311
Teslas are the ultimate virtue signaling machine
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:01 pm to Sun God
quote:I don't know what that means.
Teslas are the ultimate virtue signaling machine
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:03 pm to Sun God
quote:ok, good talks.
Sure you do
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:15 pm to agregime1
There is absolutely no way in hell that thing is less than $50,000. It is going to be $70,000 at least.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:22 pm to shel311
quote:
What do you mean by viable?
Meaning the total cost of ownership and convenience is at least equal to current ICE powered vehicles. Let me help you further just in case you are one of the usual poorly educated EV mouth huggers, convenience here means I can travel long distances without having to pre-plan for charging station availability, my vehicle doesn't suffer seriously degraded driving range in cold weather, and I can "refuel" at the same rate as a current ICE vehicle.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:33 pm to Clames
quote:Why is it that the other side is continually the only one that is so emotional about this topic?
Let me help you further just in case you are one of the usual poorly educated EV mouth huggers
quote:
convenience here means I can travel long distances without having to pre-plan for charging station availability, my vehicle doesn't suffer seriously degraded driving range in cold weather, and I can "refuel" at the same rate as a current ICE vehicle.
You originally said viable, I asked you to clarify. You got really weird about it then tell me you actually meant convenient instead of viable.
Turns out I'm not the poorly educated EV mouth hugger, I just made the mistake of interpreting your statement as you wrote it and not the completely different meaning you had in your head.
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:36 pm to shel311
quote:
Why is it that the other side is continually the only one that is so emotional about this topic
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:43 pm to shel311
I didn't bring up viability, but convenience is a critical aspect of EV's becoming as viable as ICE vehicles. It's the difference between the mainstream abd remaining a niche market for enthusiasts and those that can afford to forgo the lacking infrastructure and technical hurdles.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 12:47 pm to Clames
quote:Not originally posted but you answered my question of what viable means by telling me what convenience means, no?
I didn't bring up viability
They're viable now. They're not as convenient in many aspects as an ICE car now.
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:07 pm to shel311
They aren't viable for the majority of the current driving population. The infrastructure isn't there, anyone who relies on a vehicle for work there is no EV that is a viable alternative. Viable means something can be successful, feasible.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:15 pm to shel311
Here is a fact for anybody that is looking at one. 1 The credits are expiring 2 if you don't live in perfect weather conditions you car won't get range 3 you also might not be able to open your door 4 resale value are in absolute free fall. I'll give you a hint why, the idiot CEO had been slashing inventory process which means your resale value gets an instant write down. Tesla also has some of the worst quality scoring and there service is atrocious. This is all not even factoring in the rampant fraud within the company. I don't need to waste my time with a fan boy that will never be convinced otherwise. The facts are in full public display. Pick up a consumer report, it sounds like you got lucky.
Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:15 pm to agregime1
The concept looks cool, but that truck bed is too short to be functional
Posted on 6/9/19 at 1:23 pm to wutangfinancial
quote:
I don't need to waste my time with a fan boy
Strange. The moment someone brings out "fan boy" it's like they're waving the white flag and admitting they're too biased to have a rational discussion.
Like I said, the other side is the only one getting so emotional and name calling and taking personal shots. Never fails.
quote:You're the same 2 dude who lied about 2 facts that were proven wrong. You've given zero reason to believe anything you say is a "fact"
The facts are in full public display
You also haven't even addressed or conceded the fact that your previous 2 statements were wrong. The fact that you just avoid it every time I bring it up tells me all I need to know about how biased you're being here.
This post was edited on 6/9/19 at 1:24 pm
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