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re: Terrorist attack in Paris; shooting/grenades at bar & soccer stadium

Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:52 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:52 am to
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Holy shite



Yeah, first time I had seen it, guess it was just released. Scary shite. The guy dragging the body around looks like he is in shock
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51278 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:52 am to
I thought I would chime in since I was at this years French Open in Paris. In lieu of the Charlie incident I thought security would be crazy. It was an absolute joke. The first day I went through a VIP section since I had a package. No real security, no one checked our bags, nothing. Granted we were white so they may have changed if we weren't. The second day we went through the General Admission and while there were people checking bags, there were no metal detectors, no K-9's, just some dudes checking bags in a complete and total disorganized fashion.
This post was edited on 11/14/15 at 10:56 am
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25811 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:53 am to
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I'm sorry, but you're very wrong.



You do realize that 128+ died yesterday in a gun free zone correct? Statistics are excellent and I support them. My point is not over the past however long, my point is relative to the future that we live in. Please re-read my point. Quit letting a political bias affect your comprehension skills.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37747 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:53 am to
Was that person on the ground at the door using their cell phone?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464480 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:53 am to
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Because there are no minorities in Paris?

there is a minuscule black population, which is all that matters in reference to "White privilege" (b/c those who promote the belief ignore asians as minorities in the US)
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:53 am to
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You do realize that 128+ died yesterday in a gun free zone correct?


Which, as you said, would have occurred regardless of what the gun policy was. What does that tell you? Think about it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:54 am to
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Was that person on the ground at the door using their cell phone?



Looked like it. I thought they were dead til the end when they started moving.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:55 am to
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there is a minuscule black population, which is all that matters in reference to "White privilege" (b/c those who promote the belief ignore asians as minorities in the US)


I think we've gone a little far afield from the point of the discussion, don't you? Paris has a lot of minorities and social tensions, obviously.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37747 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:55 am to
Paris/France is much smaller and more homogeneous than the US. Guns are merely a tool for criminals to use.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37747 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:55 am to
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Was that person on the ground at the door using their cell phone?



Looked like it. I thought they were dead til the end when they started moving.




Me too. Was thinking that someone should get that person out of there.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68469 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:56 am to
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Was that person on the ground at the door using their cell phone?



Thats what it looked like to me.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91268 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:56 am to
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Because conservatives without any sense of the social or political context in France want to make an issue out of a tragedy, that's why.



You may be right, but let's not act like this is isolated to conservatives when it comes to tragedies.

Turn on MSNBC after a mass shooting and see what happens there.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57690 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:56 am to
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Yeah, maybe i dont... But Sandy Hook, Aurora, etc victims would tell you that you dont have the answers either.


To the best of my recall the only shooter to have obtained his firearms legally was Holmes (the Colorado shooting).

And this doesn't begin to even touch the greater issue which is inner-city violence.

The whole firearm argument, especially in this context (where all of the firearms in the France shootings were acquired illegally) is a strawman.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20518 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:57 am to
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Really? Paris has one of the lowest murder rates in the world for a major city (1.0 murders per 100,000 people).

I'll yield to this point because I have no time to investigate. It makes no difference when comparing to our country. I have no Idea when they banned guns but to do so at this time in this country would yield totally different results. Look at the results in our own cities that have banned guns.

There is no way to remove all guns from our society. The sad news for those that would ban guns is the good guys may comply but the bad guys wouldn't consider it.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:57 am to
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Paris/France is much smaller and more homogeneous


Paris is not even a little bit homogenous.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:57 am to
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The Associated Press
@ AP
BREAKING: Belgium justice minister: "number of" arrests made in Brussels relating to Paris attacks.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
68469 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:57 am to
Can't argue with you there.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34323 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:59 am to
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You may be right, but let's not act like this is isolated to conservatives when it comes to tragedies.


You're right about that. I will stop with the gun talk and focus on the tragedy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464480 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 10:59 am to
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I think we've gone a little far afield from the point of the discussion, don't you?

only if you want to ignore that uncomfortable truth of the progressive meme of celebrating europe because of its "white privilege"

but if you want to go really general and whitewash the issues

the US has a problem with a large lower class of trash culture. this is not primarily composed of black people, but our black population engages in a this trash culture at a higher rate than other racial groups. the results of this culture include our violent culture and skews our stats on violent crime

europe doesn't have this same problem. they are much more culturally homogeneous, removed from the trash culture
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20518 posts
Posted on 11/14/15 at 11:01 am to
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I'm not sure how anyone can disagree with that.


I disagree with that. What those psychopaths used is the same that non-psychopaths have. You want an answer? How about leaving guns alone and dealing with psychopaths.
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