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re: Temporary barriers constructed around FBI HQ in Washington DC

Posted on 8/15/22 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by TDawg70
Ringgold GA
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 8/15/22 at 3:42 pm to
If I'd have known how much barricade materials the Dems would need in just the first 18 months I would have bought a crap ton of stock.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
71721 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 3:46 pm to
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Because left wing bombings of government buildings are so common in this country?


well.....kinda yeah.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 3:53 pm to
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Yes the FBI field office that was shot up by a super dangerous "NAIL GUN"! The deranged FBI shooter needs a distance of no more than 1 foot from target in order for the nail to puncture a cardboard box errrr cause maximum FBI building damage.


Is this some kind of incredible spin attempt? The suspect used a nail gun to try to breach the bulletproof glass but he also had an actual rifle and engaged in a shootout.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
71721 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Is this some kind of incredible spin attempt? The suspect used a nail gun to try to breach the bulletproof glass but he also had an actual rifle and engaged in a shootout.


You have idiots on both sides who refuse to acknowledge inconvenient truths.

Like the guy was only armed with a nail gun and that left wing groups don't assault government buildings.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 4:15 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85777 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:06 pm to
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Is this some kind of incredible spin attempt? The suspect used a nail gun to try to breach the bulletproof glass but he also had an actual rifle and engaged in a shootout.


Wheres the body cam footage?

I keep hearing shootout, bt the guy fled the office and was shot on the highway.

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The suspect was shot after he raised a gun toward police, patrol spokesperson Lt. Nathan Dennis said during a press conference.


So when and where was the shootout?
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:07 pm to
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What is wrong with the statement, Comrade? Did the rules for a POTUS declassifying documents change overnight, or just "should" be changed now?




There is no evidence that he ever declassified them besides the tweets of a renown liar under investigation and his sycophants parroting him.

Furthermore, it's a red herring considering that none of the cited laws in the warrant depend on the documents being classified or not.

Personally, I think unless Trump was actually bidding off top secret info to the highest bidder and they have smoking gun evidence, or actual footage of him or his people lying about returning the top secret documents and then not, then covering it up, this will largely be the end of this now that the documents are back in proper custody....Which sucks for Mr. Nailgun from TheDonald and this guy, who probably posts over on the poli board too lol


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Mercer County man charged with threats to kill FBI agents after Mar-a-Lago search

A Mercer County man threatened to murder FBI agents last week after the bureau's search of former president Donald Trump's Florida estate, saying "come and get me you piece of [expletive] feds" and "I am going to [expletive] slaughter you," according to a federal complaint filed Monday in Pittsburgh.

Adam Bies, 46, is charged in U.S. District Court with influencing, impeding or retaliating against federal law officers.

He is in U.S. custody and was to make an initial appearance Monday before a federal magistrate judge.

According to an FBI affidavit, Mr. Bies issued a variety of threats on Gab after agents searched Mr. Trump's Mar-a-Lago complex for evidence of stolen classified documents.

He compared the FBI to the Nazi SS and the Soviet-era KGB and said everyone at the FBI, from agents to janitors, should be killed.

"My only goal is to kill more of them before I drop," he wrote on Thursday. "I will not spend one second of my life in their custody."





LINK

Throwing your life away to defend a lifetime grifting narcissist...
Posted by NOLAtoABQ
Member since Jun 2022
329 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:10 pm to
Really trying to play up that whole "Trumpers are violent white supremacist insurrectionists and terrorists" narrative. Meanwhile, liberals go out and threaten/attempt to assassinate sitting Supreme Court Justices and burn down city blocks, attack and injure police, kill people, vandalize and destroy police stations and federal buildings etc. all over myths made up by leftist activist groups, oppotunist politicians and scumbag fake news outlets.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85777 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:11 pm to
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A Mercer County man threatened to murder FBI agents last week after the bureau's search of former president Donald Trump's Florida estate, saying "come and get me you piece of [expletive] feds" and "I am going to [expletive] slaughter you," according to a federal complaint filed Monday in Pittsburgh.


So all the people that Threatened trump are in jail right?


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He compared the FBI to the Nazi SS and the Soviet-era KGB


So all the people saying trump is hitler and must be stopped are in jail right?

This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:13 pm to
Well, right as I hit post I see the DOJ just released another statement saying they will unseal additional documents but keep the affidavit sealed on the basis that their investigation is ongoing and if they did it would have to be heavily redacted to ensure the safety of cooperating witnesses and details of the case...this shite isn't going away for Trump any time soon.

Posted by NOLAtoABQ
Member since Jun 2022
329 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:16 pm to
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Because left wing bombings of government buildings are so common in this country?


Someone hasn't kept up with the news the last 2.5 years, it seems.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85777 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:18 pm to
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Well, right as I hit post I see the DOJ just released another statement saying they will unseal additional documents but keep the affidavit sealed on the basis that their investigation is ongoing and if they did it would have to be heavily redacted to ensure the safety of cooperating witnesses and details of the case...this shite isn't going away for Trump any time soon.


The doj has done this under democrats before. targetting the likes of MLK.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:18 pm to
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So all the people that Threatened trump are in jail right?


Just like the numerous posts I've come across here calling for the murder of specific people or groups, chances are you aren't going to get in trouble, but yes, if you make specific threats on individuals or groups and draw enough attention, you are subject to prosecution

New York man Thomas Welnicki charged with threatening to kill Trump if he refused to leave office after 2020 election

Man Charged With Threatening Violence Against Former President Trump and Other Federal Officials

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55426 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:19 pm to
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Well, right as I hit post I see the DOJ just released another statement saying they will unseal additional documents but keep the affidavit sealed on the basis that their investigation is ongoing and if they did it would have to be heavily redacted to ensure the safety of cooperating witnesses and details of the case...this shite isn't going away for Trump any time soon.


LOL. No shite, Comrade.

Tell us. What should happen to Trump, his family, and those who voted for him?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:23 pm to
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What should happen to Trump


If he knowingly took top secret documents and improperly handled them, or worse. He should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law's he broke.

quote:

his family


Unless they were active accomplices in criminal activity, nothing

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and those who voted for him


Unless they are showing up with rifles and nailguns and attempting to kill people, or committing acts of attempted insurrection again, nothing.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127908 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:26 pm to
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If he knowingly took top secret documents


The President has the ability to declassify any document he chooses, and claims he did so.

In addition, under the law, documents in possession of a former President are presumed to be declassified. Presidents are given extremely wide latitude in this.

Traditionally.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:34 pm to
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The President has the ability to declassify any document he chooses, and claims he did so.


That is a red herring. Go read the three criminal laws cited in the warrant and the basis of the investigation, none of them depend on whether documents contain classified information or not.

The Espionage Act

18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

You will not find anywhere in those cited laws that classification of the documents is a requirement for violation.
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In addition, under the law, documents in possession of a former President are presumed to be declassified.


Please show me this law, page and verse
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7123 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:39 pm to
Imagine that, using some bs vague language laws to again try to charge
Trump with something, anything. So many desperate people with TDS.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Imagine that, using some bs vague language laws to again try to charge
Trump with something, anything. So many desperate people with TDS.



You can, in part, blame Trump then...

As president, Trump approved a law increasing penalties for mishandling classified info. It could come back to bite him.


Though I don't think those laws are very vague at all, they are broad, but pretty damn clear.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55426 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:48 pm to
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Imagine that, using some bs vague language laws to again try to charge
Trump with something, anything. So many desperate people with TDS.


Not only that, but they can keep the main items closed to the public as long as they want simply to drag it out as long as needed for political theater.

It cracks me up how idiots can't see that a guy that was in DC for FOUR years isn't responsible for what is happening now. We have the same Uniparty running us into the ground, but they use Orange Man as their distraction.

I didn't vote for Trump, but the behavior of the DC complex just confirmed what I knew for years. His "impeachment" sealed it. Now the Ukraine is again a money laundering scheme for the Uniparty, but all that is just fine with Progs and TDS idiots.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71568 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 4:53 pm to
Bronc is a true nut. You people should know this by now.
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