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re: Tangipahoa Parish rape victim ordered to pay her abuser child support

Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:26 am to
Posted by Olderthandirt
Member since May 2022
559 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:26 am to
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I agree. And it probably doesn't help that the system is full of 16 year old mothers as well.


The prisons would be more overcrowded than ever if these laws were enforced in our cities.

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Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:28 am to
No doubt!!!!
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44062 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:34 am to
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Hey this is families court so I'm not allowed to do math and see that since the child is 6 and the mother is 22 years old you obviously got her pregnant when she was 16 which is pretty illegal. But hey it's family court so we have to ignore that.



The age of consent is 16, in a vast majority of states (35).
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45275 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:55 am to
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The age of consent is 16, in a vast majority of states (35).


It is 16 in England too, but that is like your 35, and has zero to do with this. It may be 14 on the moon. Who knows?

What I want to know is why the judge gave the product of a rape into the custody of the rapist, contrary to LA law? Can we have the judge explain that part?

Also, why did the Sheriff's dept. not charge this man for 7 years? The Sheriff saying we have figured out why this occurred does not explain to his constituents how it occurred. Can we have the Sheriff clearly explain how this happened?
Posted by Olderthandirt
Member since May 2022
559 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:55 am to
quote:

The age of consent is 16, in a vast majority of states (35).


And that or less in most European countries.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37459 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:56 am to
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which just pisses me off more about the justice system. Hey this is families court so I'm not allowed to do math and see that since the child is 6 and the mother is 22 years old you obviously got her pregnant when she was 16 which is pretty illegal. But hey it's family court so we have to ignore that.

True but if the goal of the 2011 proceeding was obtaining child support for the child from the father, obviously having the father locked up would defeat that goal. Plus with no such charges made by the police or brought before the court by the DA, I’m not sure what the judge could have done of his own accord.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44062 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

It is 16 in England too, but that is like your 35, and has zero to do with this. It may be 14 on the moon. Who knows?

What I want to know is why the judge gave the product of a rape into the custody of the rapist, contrary to LA law?
Can we have the judge explain that part?


The judge would probably say that,

-the child was 9 when rape was first mentioned, custody had already been awarded to the father

-the mother was 17 when the child was born

-there was no mention on where the child was conceived

quote:

Also, why did the Sheriff's dept. not charge this man for 7 years?


that is a different story, no defense for that
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45275 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:05 pm to
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I’m not sure what the judge could have done of his own accord.



I am not an attorney and do not know. If a judge is judging a traffic ticket, and a felony runs up the aisle and jumps in his lap, what is the procedure to go forward? Do they all just forget it and go to lunch, or what?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:13 pm to
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I am not an attorney and do not know. If a judge is judging a traffic ticket, and a felony runs up the aisle and jumps in his lap, what is the procedure to go forward? Do they all just forget it and go to lunch, or what?


I actually saw this happen they have to look at the case in front of them and that's it. For example: I was in court to get my suspended license taken care of (didn't pay an inspection sticker ticket because I was broke in my 20's). There was a case brought before the judge about a dude arrested for disorderly conduct at a gas station. Now this dude was wasted and drove up to the gas station and parked. But since he was arrested for disorderly conduct and not DUI the judge wouldn't let the talk about the fact he drove drunk to the store in the first place.

Is this right? hell no, I think it's stupid by all the way around. But our legal system is pretty stupid in general. There is a reason we lead the world in incarcerations by a lot.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48771 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:21 pm to
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Expect the DA to convene a grand jury, present ALL of the evidence including that from the family court judge, and then see if the grand jury decides an indictment is necessary.
. Going to be hard to seat a grand jury that is impartial with all the news this has gotten.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48771 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Can we have the Sheriff clearly explain how this happened?
. JBE’s brother this won’t happen
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44062 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

There was a case brought before the judge about a dude arrested for disorderly conduct at a gas station. Now this dude was wasted and drove up to the gas station and parked. But since he was arrested for disorderly conduct and not DUI the judge wouldn't let the talk about the fact he drove drunk to the store in the first place.

Is this right? hell no, I think it's stupid by all the way around. But our legal system is pretty stupid in general. There is a reason we lead the world in incarcerations by a lot.



Mid 90s Lawrence Taylor was found sleeping in car on the highway with empty liquor bottles early one morning, was arrested for DWI.

His lawyers successfully argued that there was no proof that he drove drunk.
His keys were not in the ignition, car was on side of the road in park. He simply pulled over on side of the road had a few drinks and went to sleep, never drove under the influence.
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:36 pm to
I highly doubt any grandjury will vote to indict, unless DA really wants them too. Alcohol, Bars, fake id's, consensual sex, custody issues, etc. Will be hard to get any conviction.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45275 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:43 pm to
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JBE’s brother this won’t happen


It will not happen if he is not asked. When the reporter was interviewing him, he said, we found out what happened and have taken steps to make sure it doesn't happen again. The reporter neglected to ask what it was that they found out had happened.

That is the part the public wants to know. Why was this pigeonholed for 7 years, until Nak turned a light on it?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:48 pm to
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The reporter neglected to ask what it was that they found out had happened.


I'm sorry, I can't give you anymore detail on an ongoing and open investigation....
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13308 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

I highly doubt any grandjury will vote to indite, unless DA really wants them too. Alcohol, Bars, fake id's, consensual sex, custody issues, etc. Will be hard to get any conviction.


22-6=16
36-6=30
18>16

Just won the case for the prosecution.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45275 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

I'm sorry, I can't give you anymore detail on an ongoing and open investigation


They have gone to that well too many times. I advocate a quick Taser boost to the user of this tired excuse.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
28962 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:15 pm to
Sounds like she used a fake ID in the bar, showed the guy the ID that she was 21, and passed herself off as a college student.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Sounds like she used a fake ID in the bar, showed the guy the ID that she was 21, and passed herself off as a college student.


This still has no bearing on the law and whether he is guilty of a crime.
Posted by lildaddy86
Hammond
Member since May 2016
254 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 1:29 pm to
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names her friend in the police report


If you’re referring to her voluntary statement about the rape, I personally know one of the girls she names that she was with and in 2005 she wasn’t a minor.
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