taking down General Lee statue in the CBD?

Can't erase what happened.. If you don't talk about history, it's bound to happen again...

When all the flags and statues come down the black community will all get good jobs and off welfare and stop killing each other. I'm sure of it!!

Yeah, there's a 5 page discussion about it...

White people feeling guilty for the current state of african american affairs by removing past racist/historic relics. Unfortunately it is not going to stop black on black crime, high levels of poverty and bad education in the poor black neighborhoods.

Maybe instead of spending money and energy on removing relics of people that shaped our past that have been dead for 100 years we should focus our spending money and energy on bettering our lower socioeconomic people.

Rev Sharpton don't care about the future, he only cares about race baiting on the past and keeping his people in poverty while stuffing his pockets.

All it takes is for someone connected to some actual cause/tragedy to decide that's what they want and it will happen.

Also, they could remove Andrew Jacksons because he was a shitty president, and the battle of New Orleans happened after the war of 1812 ended anyway

Over the top hypersensitivity political correctness is destroying this country.

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson should both be in prison for creating the current racial climate, fanning the flames of anarchy, rioting and looting.

Our President is also complicit along with his version of our Justice Department.

God Bless America!!

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The census (1860) also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves. Even if all slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country (or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves).

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That's not even close to being correct. Whoever you quote that from appears to have done a a simple and illogical calculation of 385,000 out of 8 million Southern whites. Which is not proper, and not how the census report calculated it. It is proper to determine the percentage of slave holding families



This is the simplest way to show how mistaken he was. As you can see the slavery statistics census report of 1860 (ch. 14) calculates it as 15.8% for 1850. The numbers wouldn't be much different in 1860. Data is being excluded from Gulf Coast states but again that isn't going to change how the data is calculated or somehow change it from 15 to 1.5%

Besides the fact your quotes numbers are wrong the citation of said data belies the fact that non-slaveholding whites benefited greatly from slavery. People often quote that a small minority of whites owned slaves but that hardly matters.

Even if only 1.4 percent of whites owned slaves, slaves accounted for 33% of the Southern population and were the backbone of the economy. In 1860, 89 percent of the nation's African Americans were slaves. That's the entire nation not just the South. Sure some people want to say oh but some colored people owned slaves but inconsequential to this point. If you were a poor non-slaveholding white the fact negro slavery existed meant there were always someone lower on the social and economic ladder. It meant that some poor black girl was being whipped to pick the cotton. It meant if you were a poor white that couldn't afford a slave you could find a job to whip that girl rather than the one picking the cotton. It meant there were jobs available where you could be paid to hunt down that runaway girl after she couldn't take the whippings of the overseer and the sexual abuse of her owner. You could find a job on a steamboat that transported slaves down river as they were sold from Virginia and the Carolinas to the Deep South. You could work as a clerk in an financial office who insured the transportation of the slaves or work for the bank that loaned money for the purchase of slaves. You could sweep the floors of the slave auction house. And why would you work all these jobs? Because maybe one day you could save up enough to buy your own slave.

See my point here? That's what gets lost in all the talk about percentages and what not. American Slavery was an evil institution that beget wickedness of all kinds and benefited non-slave holding whites of both the North and South. How many whites owned slaves or the fact that a small number of free blacks did as well takes us away of facing the abominations of the institution.

All the down votes on this thread are thanks to anonymous white guilt..