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re: T OR F? Narcan was the worst thing for society in a long time
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:49 am to VaBamaMan
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:49 am to VaBamaMan
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Nah, it's modern society's reaction to it.
Laudanum used to be available everywhere. Opiates were easy to obtain. Everyone was fricking high the in 1800s and early 1900s. Everyone.
And you could shoot people for stealing your stuff back then, too
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Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:51 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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What I’m saying is, how do y’all know so many people on heroin or fentany
Man, I wish I could say I didn’t. I’ve lost 5 friends this year. Middle to upper middle class people. Mostly prep/jock crowd when younger.
This isn’t something that’s effecting the scum of the earth. This is claiming the lives of the future of America. It’s so bad of an epidemic, we are gonna be beyond the point of no return before it’s taken seriously enough to actually prevent it changing the make up of our nation.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:52 am to TheCaterpillar
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It is something a non-healthcare professional would say. Or at the least someone who hasn't taken a Hippocratic Oath would say.
I wouldn't go that far. Sadly, there are some healthcare workers who have become so hardened and cynical who very likely feel this way- or their actions and attitudes support it anyways.
Not ALL of them mind you- but there are more than you'd think and very few who would actually admit to it. But it is out there. sadly.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:53 am to tigernurse
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I will tell you this, the addicts that I have met on their recovery journey, are THE MOST sincere, honest, and LOYAL people I have ever met. They are grateful for their lives and they put in the work each day to encourage others to obtain/maintain their own sobriety.
Until they relapse, and steal any of your shite they can get their hands on, so they can go buy their drug of choice, right? I have dealt with addiction in my family, all of my life. I know how this goes.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:53 am to chryso
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Can we inject them with a long acting version of Narcan? Say 30 days or longer?
Yes you can, it's called Vivitrol and is $800 a shot. Basically extended release naltrexone that blocks the brains receptors for about a month.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:54 am to Pesticide
quote:those tylenol 500's are usually all I need for pain management
I'd rather deal with the pain. Eventually you'll get used to it.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:54 am to Pesticide
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Pain is just a word for justifying drug addiction. Listen to you "if the were strong enough" The pills are fine, the tolerance level of the person is the issue. When you're eating them like tic tacs, your tolerance level goes through the roof and then you're hooked. If people would toughen up and stop being such pussies, they could deal with most of the pain. Short of being a cancer patient or suffering some debilitating car crash/injury, most or just drug addicts. I'm glad that i hate most pain meds. I'd rather deal with the pain. Eventually you'll get used to it.
agree with a lot of this, not a pussy but I'm over being the tough guy and dealing with pain, if I hurt I want something for it, when I don't need it I don't take it, the old lady has a high tolerance for pain and pain meds typically don't work for her, it's the abusers that are ruining it for the rest of us!
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:55 am to Pesticide
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Pain is just a word for justifying drug addiction.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:55 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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What do you think the relapse rate of Narcan recipients is?
compared to the people that never received it?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:56 am to Bedhog
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've spoken with many health professionals,doctors,nurses,EMT's. They all say Narcan was the worst thing to enter our society
Terrible that someone’s life could be saved.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:57 am to Bedhog
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hose tylenol 500's are usually all I need for pain management
You want a prize or something?
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:57 am to TheCaterpillar
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I work in healthcare and to say that "every doctor, nurse, and EMT you've spoken to thinks it is the worst thing to enter our society" is just a lie.
Exacty.
I've never heard anyone in healthcare with negative things to say about Narcan. Most praise it because it's an amazing drug. These people chose to work in healthcare, emergency services, or jobs involving helping others. Why would the majority of them hate a drug that saves peoples lives?
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:59 am to Ed Osteen
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compared to the people that never received it?
Straw man. You know what I was saying. Most Narcan recipients go on to do the same thing over and over again. There are stories of people turning their lives around, but we all know that’s not the baseline
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:59 am to troyt37
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Until they relapse, and steal any of your shite they can get their hands on, so they can go buy their drug of choice, right? I have dealt with addiction in my family, all of my life. I know how this goes.
I get it. Me too. Based on statistics, I should have been one too. What I have learned though, is that the recovery road is much harder than the initial rehab phase. Working as closely as I do with women in the recovery phase, it is very predictable, based on observation of their behaviors when they're about to relapse. OR at least in my experience it has been very predictable. And you can't save everyone- or anyone really- that's their work to do. I am super discerning and have very strong boundaries in place so that my shite doesn't get stolen when they relapse.
But I will tell you this- those that I know who day in and day out are intentional about their lives and the (elenty billionth) chance they've been given- they don't take it for granted. Those women- those are the ones I am referring to.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:01 am to Mr Clean
quote:One friend is an EMT and said he's the first on the scene and after administering it the subject gets angry with him for administering it. How thankless of a job is that?
Terrible that someone’s life could be saved.
A lady I've known for a long time was a nurse. She quit nursing and went into the plastic surgery field partially because of thankless hours of dealing with angry and often times violent druggies that came into the ER.
I know 2 doctors who basically said the same thing my nurse friend said. I've heard this over the years and after watching that video I linked in the OP decided to make a T or F post about what everyone else thinks on the matter.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:02 am to 777Tiger
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it's the abusers that are ruining it for the rest of us!
which is why I have to show 3847397 forms of ID and have an hour long discussion with the pharmacist to get 10 pseudofed's during the spring. :dammit:
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:02 am to Bedhog
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How thankless of a job is that?
You dont do jobs like that to be thanked
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:02 am to Bedhog
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How thankless of a job is that?
Pick a profession, they're all thankless.
EMTs shouldn't be in it for the "Thanks"
Posted on 9/24/19 at 11:04 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Straw man. You know what I was saying. Most Narcan recipients go on to do the same thing over and over again.
My point still stands, the relapse rate is much lower for those that have received the spray than those who have not. The relapse rates for addiction are staggeringly high, no matter what the substance. Narcan at least gives someone the option for recovery as opposed to dying on the street. 
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