re: Supreme Court ponders the right to pray on the 50-yard line

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I bet the same people on this board would lose their mind if a coach had their players taking part in Islamic prayer

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There would be an entire shitshow if Brayden's coach led an Islamic prayer that he chose not to participate in and then coincidentally he lost his starting shortstop spot the next game. Guarantee that.

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The coach is not "having" them do anything. It is up to the player whether they participate or not.

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This has been addressed. Some coaches don't exactly appreciate when their players don't participate in activities with the rest of the team.

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Is this where the left becomes hardcore textualist when it fits their agenda?

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no. this is where growing up in southwest Louisiana and playing sports I've seen how parents will blame politics as the reason their kid isn't starting on their tee ball team much less high school sports.

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pressure corporations to be pedo friendly

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Literally not happening anywhere no matter how many times you say it

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I don't see how anyone can deny this.

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I guess I get it because religion and prayer are so ingrained in southern culture and people that participate just assume everyone is cool with it because in most cases the vast majority are. Most people that aren’t into prayer just go along to get along.

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I don't see how anyone can deny this. At some schools there would only be 1 player sitting out the prayer.

I actually dealt with this as a player but I just went along with the prayer. It's not that big of a deal and my teammates were 90% into it.

I can see the issue though where a kid sits out the prayer and then is passed up on the depth chart the next week. some parents would lose their shite saying it was because they weren't joining the prayer. If i was the coach I'd rather avoid that entirely. Let the players on the team lead a prayer if they want to is the best solution.

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I can make up quite a few hypotheticals of how an a-hole coach can retaliate on the players. That doesn't mean anything to me about the practice of prayer itself. That says more about that a-hole coach as a person.

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I can make up quite a few hypotheticals of how an a-hole coach can retaliate on the players. That doesn't mean anything to me about the practice of prayer itself. That says more about that a-hole coach as a person.

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I just dont see why the coach needs to lead the prayer rather than letting a player do it.

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You really need to read and digest Garcetti v Ceballos which speaks to what you are talking about whether the court finds Kennedy's conduct is or isn't prohibited. Speech of a public official/government employee is only protected if it is engaged in as a private citizen. It is no longer protected if it is expressed during their public duty.

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I don’t need an activist, or living document court and perverted precedent to tell me what the first amendment clearly says in the English Language, and which protects individual religious liberty in the United States regardless of any nuance someone wants to insert into the words to chisel away at religion in America. All of this garbage started with an FDR appointee Hugo Black who was adamantly opposed to the RCC and began the perversion of the establishment clause.

I prefer to stick with Thomas Jefferson, the actual author of it, who held bible studies in government buildings, held national days of prayer and fasting, and who clearly stated what the intention of the wall was for, and it was most certainly NOT intended to alienate religion, or one’s religious devotion from public life.

Matter of fact, the founder of the American public school system was a man named Horace Mann, and he used the actual KJV Bible in public schools to teach people to read.

Absolutely NONE of the revisionist activist court crap stands up to original intent. NONE of it.

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I prefer to stick with Thomas Jefferson, the actual author of it, who held bible studies in government buildings, held national days of prayer and fasting, and who clearly stated what the intention of the wall was for, and it was most certainly NOT intended to alienate religion, or one’s religious devotion from public life.

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He's also the guy that said we should throw away the constitution and start over every 20 years. But by all means continuing cherry picking the parts you like to fit your agenda

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Most people that aren’t into prayer just go along to get along.

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There is no "go along to get along" though.

No one is blocking traffic to pray.
No one is holding up the next sporting event to pray.
If someone "isnt in to it" they can just go home.

Why does a coach kneeling after a game effect anyone else?

I never understand this argument.