re: Suicide rises to 11th leading cause of death in the US in 2021

Men were created to be expendable, and for large portions of society were treated as such but given perks to offset it. Now we are being shite on from all angles yet still asked to be expendable, all while government policies almost endorse the father leaving the home.

Blaming it on just COVID lockdowns is willfully ignoring that suicide rates have been climbing for years, had a small drop right around COVID, then went up again. It goes much deeper than that.

It 2005 it was 10.9 per 100,000.

It’s worth pointing out Twitter was created in 2006. Facebook was created in 2004. Instagram came a few years later in 2010.

I couldn't imagine the cyber bullying that follows some of these kids home. I would be lying if I said I didn't contemplate hurting myself when I was in 6th grade due to some extremely traumatic bullying, but at least I was able to get some respite when I went home.

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Isolation and lost hope caused by the China virus overreaction. But think of all the lives we saved

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I read yesterday that life expectancy in the United States is down 2.7 years since 2020. The same report says that it is believed that 60% of this is due to COVID and related issues attributed to reaction to COVID. On average then it is safe to say that life expectancy dropped 1.62 years due to COVID and at least some of that is attributable to reaction to COVID (shutdown). There are 330+ million people in the US. They have lost 534 million + years of life expectancy. That means that 6,969,767 lives of 77.4 years (life expectancy in 2021) have been lost to COVID with shutdowns. The worst case scenarios early in 2020 were 5 million people would die. In fact nearly 7 million lives of 77.4 years were lost, according to the CDC, and the economy worldwide was placed in peril that most likely will not be corrected without some serious ill effects. The virus was bad, the worlds reaction was infinitely worse and it will be at least a couple of generations before January 2019 is seen again....

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Yeah.

For young girls, its social media. For men, I believe its driven by substance abuse, which I believe is mostly driven by pressures men typically put on themselves.

And the internet/social media increases these pressures.

Those are my thoughts as the main drivers. Would love to hear any thoughts or data for other drivers.

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I think that’s pretty accurate, at least from my general observations.

The substance use piece could also indicate a reluctance to get help as well. Most folks fully in their addiction have to reach a pretty big bottom (like almost losing their family, losing their livelihood, overdosing, etc) in order to get treatment. Accidental overdoses are also sometimes labeled suicide as well at the coroner’s office depending on the substances they consumed.

I think the continued growing gap between wage stagnation and cost of living can be a big factor. Most Americans are one bad medical issue or catastrophe away from being in the hole financially. That likely effects men more than women since statistically men are still often the bread winners in families.

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Myself and other local therapist/psychs worked with a local politician (who is a psych herself)

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Aren’t all politicians psychos?

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Majority of us are spoiled and don’t know real struggle. So why do so many people commit suicide?

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My guess is they begin to learn what real struggle is and have no idea how to cope.

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I read yesterday that life expectancy in the United States is down 2.7 years since 2020. The same report says that it is believed that 60% of this is due to COVID and related issues attributed to reaction to COVID.

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Part of this has to also be tied to the growing obesity rates. Which would be further exacerbated with any side-effects from COVID and/or the vaccines.

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Yeah.

For young girls, its social media.

For men, I believe its driven by substance abuse, which I believe is mostly driven by pressures men typically put on themselves. And the internet/social media increases these pressures.

Those are my thoughts as the main drivers. Would love to hear any thoughts or data for other drivers.

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i was curious to see if this newer or have teen girls have always had higher rates of suicide related behavior.


from 2014:
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While both SRB and suicide onset in youth, there are distinct sex differences. SRB rates are higher in girls and peak in youth.10–15 In contrast, suicide rates are higher in boys16,17 and this sex difference persists into adulthood. Among Canadians ages 15 to 24 who die by suicide, almost three quarters are males (with a similar proportion in older age groups).18 Although the reasons for this gender paradox,19 first evident in youth, are not fully understood, one theory is girls may provide more opportunities to intervene, for example, through (repeat) ED presentations for SRB.20–22 Ideally, though, the need for such presentations could be prevented through integrated community and hospital-based services.23–29 To inform the development and targeting of preventive interventions, we assess whether there have been changes over time in hospital presentations for SRB in boys or girls.

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