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re: Subcontracting vs Lock and key
Posted on 1/27/18 at 3:30 pm to lsufan112001
Posted on 1/27/18 at 3:30 pm to lsufan112001
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Start with a good framer
Hijack.
Anyone got framer recommendations in BR? I need a ceiling raised and load bearing wall removed. I’ve already got the engineeering report on what needs to be done.
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 5:35 pm to Golfer
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Anyone got framer recommendations in BR? I need a ceiling raised and load bearing wall removed. I’ve already got the engineeering report on what needs to be done.
Maldonado Construction (225) 279-2160
Miguel frames all my houses. Damn good framer. Really good with large remodel projects as well.
This post was edited on 1/27/18 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 1/27/18 at 5:39 pm to Golfer
Mitchel Breau, 225-718-4696. Does great work. 
Posted on 1/27/18 at 6:41 pm to stelly1025
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Highly doubt building a home would cause a divorce, it is more like that marriage was fricked from the start and that was the excuse.
Can we assume you have never built a house?
Posted on 1/27/18 at 6:54 pm to UnderhandRabbit
I self contracted our home in 2013. It was an eye opening experience for sure. It went reasonably well considering. We had a few issues but overall it was done to our expectations. If I learned one thing it was that money talks. Some of the subs will try to get you to pay for this and that up front. Don’t pay them for anything upfront and always hold back something until it is completely finished. I trusted people at first and it bit me. Also, if you are the GC make sure you have all the proper permits and builders risk insurance. Make sure your subs are licensed (if possible) and carry insurance.
Posted on 1/27/18 at 7:08 pm to UnderhandRabbit
As a person in construction, I say act as your own GC. There is nothing to it. 
There are subcontractors everywhere that are depending on people self-contracting so they can retire early.
There are subcontractors everywhere that are depending on people self-contracting so they can retire early.
This post was edited on 1/27/18 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:31 pm to Jeff Boomhauer
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is that to be a licensed contractor one must carry insurance for both liability and workman’s Comp. If you are self contracting and gross negligence occurs either by you or your sub it’s all on you. A general contractors g l covers his actions and his subs. It does not, however, cover sloppy workmanship. Also if an employee of, or one of your tradesmen gets injured or killed on the job without workman’s Comp you could be held liable. A general contractors policy would cover all this. If you do your self you can purchase coverage but deduct that form the 30k you May save. Also if you hire someone get insurance certicates sent from their carrier directly to you and in your name. This is prioryif you are the owner or contractor or both. Also book keeping hasn’t been mentioned. If you self perform be ready to pay people daily and weekly while you can only get funds at certain intervals. Be ready to meet Joe Sheetrock with cash at the liquor store on Friday morning and to give his employee that hurt his back on your job $100 that Joe didn’t pay him last week. Also be ready to leave your regular job mid morning to get the framers a dozen sheets of plywood and a box of nails before they “pull off and can’t get back for a couple weeks”. That reminds me be prepare to pay extra interim interest cause subs give the regular builders priority over you unless you pay more
Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:39 pm to Hank R Hill
Who would have thought both Hank hill and boomhauer would comment in this thread?
Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:43 pm to EA6B
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Can we assume you have never built a house?
We’ve gutted and renovated two now. And are onto our third. Still happily married.
Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:51 pm to UnderhandRabbit
I've done this twice and saved considerable money both times BUT if you don't have a job that is very flexible do NOT do it.
You have to stay on top of the subs and particularly the framers will have questions about how you want things and if you aren't there or can't get there quick they will do it there way.
Especially the first time it was extremely stressful making sure correct permits were pulled and lining up subs. The project management can be tough for a first timer because you don't know how long each step takes and the subs will lead you on sometimes. You can bet it will take a lot longer to get built because you are never a subs first priority. I saved a lot of money with careful materials shopping but that takes time, I enjoy that for some it is work.
In the end I say if you have to ask you should hire a GC.
You have to stay on top of the subs and particularly the framers will have questions about how you want things and if you aren't there or can't get there quick they will do it there way.
Especially the first time it was extremely stressful making sure correct permits were pulled and lining up subs. The project management can be tough for a first timer because you don't know how long each step takes and the subs will lead you on sometimes. You can bet it will take a lot longer to get built because you are never a subs first priority. I saved a lot of money with careful materials shopping but that takes time, I enjoy that for some it is work.
In the end I say if you have to ask you should hire a GC.
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