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re: Study shows that stupid people lie more often and are bigger liars

Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:24 am to
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:24 am to
A big problem with this study is that the amount at stake was basically beer money. Intelligent people tend to make enough money in their day jobs that they wouldn't bother to lie over ten bucks.

FWIW, my junk is ten inches long and wide as a can of tuna.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:25 am to
Were the test subjects of all the same income level? An intelligent person is less likely to need a couple of bucks than an unintelligent broke person. They provided an incentive to lie.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:30 am to
Does it say what the test was to measure intelligence? And does it say what the cut off was to put people into each group?
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:31 am to
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Check the graph again and look at the 16.6% mark of the 1 in 6 probability of each number occurring. Then look at the actual reported output. With enough test(rolls) recorded, deviations from the known statistical probability will show, with a greater than 99% probability, that lies occurred
Do you know how many tests they ran? Just because the probablility of rolling a specific number is 1/6 for each roll, that doesn't mean that in reality, after a finite number of rolls, each number would come up 1/6 of the time. Really, all they needed to do to make this a better study was to record what each person actually rolled and then compare that to what the person said they rolled.

Of course people lied, it's just a terrible study the way they performed it.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:38 am to
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Second, why were the smarter liars so sheepish about going for the maximum payoff?


Because they are smart and know how to lie without getting caught.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:41 am to
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The study doesn't really show anything because they don't actually know if people were lying or not


Exactly. Smart people are just better at lying and don't get caught, hence it won't show up in statistics since no one knows it was a lie. Maybe in this test, smarter people saw no huge benefit in lying. But this is only one single circumstance. Doesn't cover everything for sure
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 8:44 am
Posted by Redbone
between St. Amant and Port Vincent
Member since Sep 2012
20738 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 8:59 am to
Flawed study. Smart people are better at it. They don't get caught.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:56 am to
Confirms why I hold honesty as being number 1 personality trait.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:08 am to
That graph doesn't really make sense to me, but that's OK because I have enough money to pay people to understand shite for me.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:21 am to
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Exactly. Smart people are just better at lying and don't get caught, hence it won't show up in statistics since no one knows it was a lie


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Flawed study. Smart people are better at it. They don't get caught.


the dice lied or there wasn't a 1/6 chance of each individual outcome?

Really try to understand, "what should have been the outcome vs what was reported"......no one was caught lying, just as groups, there was a trend in dishonesty that was skewed/biased toward higher payoff.(which makes sense in animal reward based studies)
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:39 am
Posted by Phil A Sheo
equinsu ocha
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:35 am to
So what your sayin is the OT is full up with stupid people..
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 11:06 am to
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So what your sayin is the OT is full up with stupid people..



well, they really aren't helping themselves out much in this thread.
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