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Study says "ACLU Effect" responsible for spike in Chicago crime
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:07 pm
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The American Civil Liberties Union is to blame for a spike in bloodshed on the troubled streets of Chicago – that is the conclusion of a new study released by the University of Utah.
Following the shooting of Laquan McDonald, an agreement was reached between the Chicago Police Department and the ACLU and, by 2016, a plan was implemented requiring street cops to fill out contact cards with enhanced detail explaining why individuals were stopped. The cards have 70 entries, some in essay form.
Authors of the study claim the paperwork takes 15 to 20 minutes to complete and has discouraged police from stopping suspicious people and checking them for weapons.
About 100,000 stops were recorded for all of 2016, an 82 percent decrease from 600,000 the previous year. For the same time period, gun violence spiked – 754 people were killed in Chicago, a 58 percent increase from 480 the previous year. The study concludes Chicago endured 1,100 additional shootings from the previous year.
“Criminals on the streets of Chicago became more emboldened to carry guns. The deterrent effect decreased,” said Paul Cassell, one of two authors of the study. “When there are more guns on the street being carried by criminals, the predictable result is an increase in gun-related crimes.”
This is what is getting ready to happen in Baton Rouge if I were a betting man.
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Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:12 pm to jbgleason
Anyone with a fricking brain is thinking "Of fricking course!"
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:15 pm to jbgleason
Black people
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:16 pm to jbgleason
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an agreement was reached between the Chicago Police Department and the ACLU
Why would you ever agree to anything from that terrorist Org? Feck them and pay them money for their lawsuit and shoo them away.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:20 pm to jbgleason
So basically, gun control laws are indeed very effective in reducing violent crime, but only if those gun control law are very strictly enforced?
What you're saying is that making it illegal to carry guns in and of itself is not a great way to lower crime rates, but making it illegal to possess a gun AND making sure that law enforcement is extremely vigilant in enforcing these gun control measures will make the streets safer?
If you are here advocating to make it illegal to own and carry handguns, I think you've come to the wrong place.
What you're saying is that making it illegal to carry guns in and of itself is not a great way to lower crime rates, but making it illegal to possess a gun AND making sure that law enforcement is extremely vigilant in enforcing these gun control measures will make the streets safer?
If you are here advocating to make it illegal to own and carry handguns, I think you've come to the wrong place.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:31 pm to jbgleason
The ACLU and other SJW outfits consistently make Officer’s jobs harder than they have to be. This is equivalent to their made up plight against “stop and frisk” in NYC although those policies cleaned NYC from a borderline 3rd world country in the early 90s to a much much cleaner, safer place in the mid-late 2000s
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:33 pm to jbgleason
It’s amazing that cops in an under staffed city were ordered to waste more of their time filling out paper work instead of policing
Posted on 3/28/18 at 5:51 pm to jbgleason
While maybe somewhat true, when they do arrest someone — even for a violent gun crime— the sentences are extremely weak, if there is one at all.
For nearly every gun crime committed, there was a prior missed opportunity to take that criminal off the street.
The solution to gun crime is to make the penalties extreme. Like crazy WTF extreme. Life for armed robbery with no parole, etc.
For nearly every gun crime committed, there was a prior missed opportunity to take that criminal off the street.
The solution to gun crime is to make the penalties extreme. Like crazy WTF extreme. Life for armed robbery with no parole, etc.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:01 pm to Ed Osteen
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The ACLU also argues that the report disregards other factors, like anger on the street over the McDonald shooting and the appearance that police falsified their reports following the shooting.
Love when the ACLU uses language like this.
All that matter is if it appears a police report was falsified, because frick whether it actually was or was not falsified.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:02 pm to Ed Osteen
Anything to take away consequences from those who deserve them
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:02 pm to jbgleason
I'm shocked, shocked I say.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:04 pm to jbgleason
In before a bunch of people from Baton Rouge and New Orleans talk about Chicago being a dangerous shithole despite having never been there.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:07 pm to AbitaFan08
quote:... are you arguing that it's not a dangerous shithole?
In before a bunch of people from Baton Rouge and New Orleans talk about Chicago being a dangerous shithole despite having never been there.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:09 pm to joeyb147
I’m arguing that if you’re not in the south side, otherwise known as the area anyone with even a little money and tourists are, it’s a nice city.
I’ve been to Chicago many times and never felt unsafe.
I’ve been to Chicago many times and never felt unsafe.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:10 pm to kywildcatfanone
All the money and time being spent on stupid things like this could be saved if community leaders would go into these places and tell everybody to stop killing, raping and robbing. PERIOD. But no, that is perceived as talking down to people. Going to jail is OK, but telling people to obey the law is not. Unfortunately, this country is on a downhill slide because of stupid feel-good people that don't have the guts to do the right thing.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:11 pm to AbitaFan08
I have been there and, just like NOLA and BTR, it has great spots and 3rd world like conditions in others. It may be better these days but they were known for some pretty fantastic violence back in the day and it sounds like they may be headed back.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:12 pm to jbgleason
The difference with Chicago is the crime is much more segregated, especially compared to NOLA.
Yes, the south side is horrible and I wouldn’t be caught there even in the daytime. But if you avoid that, which is very easy to do because anything worth anything isn’t there, it’s a really nice city.
Yes, the south side is horrible and I wouldn’t be caught there even in the daytime. But if you avoid that, which is very easy to do because anything worth anything isn’t there, it’s a really nice city.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:17 pm to jbgleason
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Authors of the study claim the paperwork takes 15 to 20 minutes to complete and has discouraged police from stopping suspicious people and checking them for weapons.
Police are too lazy to do their job? Go figure.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:18 pm to AbitaFan08
I know Nola has a higher murder rate than Chicago and BR probably does too.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 3/28/18 at 6:20 pm to jbgleason
It's not because of the weather?
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