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re: Student loan debt: Could we be headed toward another economic crisis similar to 08?

Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:10 pm to
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I think the highest is ~6-7% but paying interest is just pissing away money.


At those rates, generally true, but you should be maxing out 401k to the point that the company won’t match.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15825 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:44 pm to
I do max my 401k+. I just want the loans done so i can save for a house and truck
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38232 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:16 pm to
First, congrats on not making this La. centered or focused. Second, everything you say is accurate albeit old news. Since it’s individuals that owe and not corporations, I doubt the feds will let every borrower off the hook for the loans. They don’t have the clout individually to get a bail out and they won’t ever be that well organized. But they may get part of the debt forgiven by a politician who wants to buy votes.
So no, this won’t cause the same type of crisis IMO.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3870 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:31 pm to
When the federal government took over the student loan system, they committed an egregious disservice to the people. The government should charge ZERO interest for those loans especially since they are absolutely committed even if one declares bankruptcy. These guys in DC are absolute crooks. This is an investment in our country and all loans should be recalculated.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38232 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:10 pm to
This is an investment in our country and all loans should be recalculated.


Why? The borrower agreed to the terms. Why should they be recalculated?
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34329 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:21 pm to
No. It would be a crisis, but not like 2008. Even though student loans are bundled together like home mortgages, the market for student loans is much smaller than the housing market and many are guaranteed by the federal government.

Thus, a student loan bubble could result in increasing the public debt and, thereby, inflation, but it will probably not lead to the collapse of major investment banks.
Posted by Armytiger87
Member since Aug 2015
129 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:30 pm to
Why is no one mentioning the Public Serivce Loan Forgiveness program? Ten years worth of payments while working for a qualifying public service agency and your student loan balance is forgiven
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:44 pm to
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The federal student loan program is one of the main reasons America is a super wealthy nation.


No it's not. That's because the US had a stranglehold on production after WWII due to not having to rebuild ruins.

It is, however, one of the reasons this country is so far in debt it will never be paid off.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:51 pm to
I fricked up big time after leaving school and am paying dearly for that - driving cross country and shoveling 50-60% of my check each week to get rid of it instead of crying for a bailout. That and hoping to nail the Powerball
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 9:21 pm to
Yes
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:04 pm to
All I know is that shite better not be wiped out. I’m looking at paying off the 40k I had inside of 4 years, and I certainly exercised some long term restraint in doing so once I got my job.

Those folks need to pay, even it means making payments for the rest of their lives
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1491 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:07 am to
Not big enough to affect the economy?!?!?

Student loan debt is the single largest liability on the balance sheet of the US Treasury.

(interestingly the US Treasury does not include the future liabilities of Medicare and social security, which total over $100 trillion together)
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:10 am to
Like I said, it won't get bailed out because the people who owe on the loans don't donate enough to the RNC/DNC. It'll only go away when they die.
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:20 am to
I looked into the Public Service Loan forgiveness. Turns out my student loans are on a 10 year pay off plan. This means at the end of my 120 payments there will be nothing left to forgive.

Sounds about right.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64040 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:26 am to
Don't borrow money for lousy degrees. Simple as that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:26 am to
quote:

I looked into the Public Service Loan forgiveness. Turns out my student loans are on a 10 year pay off plan. This means at the end of my 120 payments there will be nothing left to forgive.

Sounds about right.




You can switch to one of the longer repayment options and still qualify. I don't remember the specifics of the program though.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:55 am to
You can restructure your payment plan to have a longer payoff then make minimum payments. You just have to make sure that you double check the definition of "qualifying payments" and have all your paper work and ducks in a row at the front.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24279 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 11:25 am to
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The government should charge ZERO interest for those loans especially since they are absolutely committed even if one declares bankruptcy


Us treasuries are guaranteed by the federal government. What's the rate on those (it's not zero)
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