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re: Storm Aftermath - Hurricane Matthew will be Retired

Posted on 10/3/16 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/3/16 at 11:22 pm to
I don't think there are many, if any, geological formations that were formed by meteorological conditions, such as a hurricane. Certainly, storm surge could cut a small island in two, a la Deer Island in Mississippi during Camille and or Katrina, but a continent's coast line wouldn't have been formed by that.
Just guessing I think it's more a function of the Appalachian Mountains that created the coastal curves around GA, SC, and NC.
Where's Pectus? Isn't he the residential geologist?
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/3/16 at 11:34 pm to
Florida is basically a really big coral reef that turned into a landmass. If I recall from a Geology class 35 years ago, it's call Karst topography. I don't think it is as old as continental N America. It's basically nothing but very porous limestone. At Jupiter beach, there are limestone outcroppings. It kind of looks like the lava beaches in Hawaii.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

I don't think there are many, if any, geological formations that were formed by meteorological conditions, such as a hurricane.


Yeah it doesn't have to be the actual storms but could be the prevailing steering conditions that force weather in that direction. I genuinely don't know, hence the reason for the question, but like I said, the storm tracks and the coastline in that area are very similar.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:06 am to
quote:

it's call Karst topography
correct
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21005 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:07 am to
Two things real quick, 1st, the global wind patterns on avg dictate storm tracks. So storms that move farther north are more likely to be turned back to the NE by the westerlies. Then add to that the Coriolis effect and you get something like this:



2nd, the 00z GFS is still faster than the Euro but who knows what the Euro will do at 00z. However, that has been a theme so far. The Euro would put a major hurricane about 80 or so mile east of Gainesville, FL on Saturday and the GFS would put it there Friday afternoon/evening. At this lead time, that is well within the margin of error. I'm not sure what will happen with the game weather wise unless models trend significantly east tomorrow.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21005 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 12:11 am to
The 00z UK looks a lot like the GFS, maybe a bit west of the GFS.
Posted by sealawyer
Coonassganistan
Member since Nov 2012
3142 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:04 am to
Does this thing have any chance of going west and sliding over Florida into the Gulf, like Katrina did? Or, just going west and getting into the Gulf the old fashioned way?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:05 am to
I wonder if we're starting to see some drier air infiltrate the system. The organization seems to be getting worse over the last few frames and the cloud tops aren't what they once were.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:09 am to
quote:

Does this thing have any chance of going west and sliding over Florida into the Gulf, like Katrina did? Or, just going west and getting into the Gulf the old fashioned way?


I guess "never" is too strong, but to my knowledge there aren't even ensemble members that are suggesting this is a possibility.
Posted by sealawyer
Coonassganistan
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:16 am to
quote:

guess "never" is too strong, but to my knowledge there aren't even ensemble members that are suggesting this is a possibility.


Thats good. I've never understood the method to the madness of tracking these things.

Whatever usually pushes these things west isn't present here? Or is there some force holding it east.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63548 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:19 am to
On the latest spaghetti monster image there's only one member that goes into the gulf and even that one huge the western coast of the Florida peninsula so it's extremely unlikely


Also rds or someone like him (aka someone who knows what they are talking about) said earlier that it might be getting into some drier air for a little bit tonight so that's certainly possible
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:33 am to
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Thats good. I've never understood the method to the madness of tracking these things.


If you want a damn good explanation, check out the daily videos from Tropical Tidbits.

Easy to follow and you'll learn more in 10 minutes than you have in your life.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91271 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:36 am to
0z Euro seems to be ever so slightly west of the previous run.

Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
41897 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 1:55 am to
quote:

Does this thing have any chance of going west and sliding over Florida into the Gulf, like Katrina did? Or, just going west and getting into the Gulf the old fashioned way?



The ridge would have to be a lot stronger than it's forecast to be, then again, the ridge already is stronger than it was forecast to be a few days ago.
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 1:56 am
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:11 am to
quote:

Looks like a Hugo




Don't say that. We lost a house that had been in our family for years and years, and everything in it, during Hugo.

(Truth be told..I am afraid this is gonna be worse than Hugo was)
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:14 am to


Anywhere even close to the majority of these and I am royally screwed. frick you, Matthew.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15723 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:37 am to
hell i'm getting a little nervous myself. Carolina girl id be really nervous if i was you! Do you live close to the coast of SC? looks like SC or NC are in the crosshairs
This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 5:43 am
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39923 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:38 am to
Stay safe CG.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 5:56 am to
Is this thing headed to Miami beach? We're actually on a cruise right now we just docked at st Thomas and then st Maarten tomorrow before we head back to Fort Lauderdale for a sat morning docking but it looks like we will be right behind it. My dogs are at a pet hotel in sunny isles beach north of Miami so I'm worried about them now, not sure what the place does if they evacuate the area.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34065 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:08 am to
Good luck CG. Also, boardup and run
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