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re: Storm Aftermath - Hurricane Matthew will be Retired

Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40387 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:06 pm to
Err it's Wednesday
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65901 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

D9


That's still so far out.
I know improvements on tracking have increased for D3 - D5, but has there been any evidence that we've gotten better for so far out in time?
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2194 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

but has there been any evidence that we've gotten better for so far out in time?


Not for GFS. That's why they're spending so much time, energy, effort, and money working on its replacement.

Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3967 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:16 pm to
What day are we in re D3, D4, etc ?
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 8:17 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:35 pm to
Slowly getting better organized with recon showing a LLC that doesn't look as sloppy as this morning but it is still on the western edge of the convection. This suggest that the LLC is still a little out ahead of the mid level spin.

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

I know improvements on tracking have increased for D3 - D5, but has there been any evidence that we've gotten better for so far out in time?


The NHC does an internal forecast out to D7. They don't officially post this but they do coordinate with WPC on the 7 day forecast. This is from this evening:



Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:44 pm to
Recon for this evening:



This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 9:46 pm
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
42861 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:46 pm to
looks like a due west with a slight south component in movement this evening
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:10 pm to
000
WTNT44 KNHC 290251
TCDAT4

TROPICAL STORM MATTHEW DISCUSSION NUMBER 3
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL142016
1100 PM AST WED SEP 28 2016

Matthew crossed a portion of the Lesser Antilles today, and
tropical-storm-force winds were experienced in various islands for
several hours. The strongest winds appeared to have occurred in
Martinique which was located in the northeastern quadrant of the
storm. An Air Force plane currently investigating Matthew measured
a peak wind at 850-mb of 73 kt, while the SFMR instrument measured
54 kt. The minimum central pressure was 1004 mb. There are no signs
of an inner core yet, but the cloud pattern has increased in
organization, and the initial intensity was adjusted upward to 55
kt.


Matthew is forecast to move over warm waters and relatively low
shear during the next few days, and these conditions should lead to
gradual strengthening. There is a possibility, however, that
Matthew encounters some westerly shear in the central Caribbean well
south of Haiti in a day or two. This is an area climatologically
unfavorable for storms to intensify, and Matthew could reduce its
rate of strengthening there. After that, most of the models show a
more conducive upper-level environment, and Matthew could intensify
at a faster rate. The NHC forecast is not very different from its
predecessor and follows closely the intensity consensus.

Fixes from an Air Force plane indicate that Matthew is moving
toward the west or 270 degrees at 13 kt. A strong subtropical
ridge over the Atlantic is steering Matthew westward, and some
models even move the cyclone south of due west. Most of the guidance
is very consistent with this track during the next 48 hours. After
that time, guidance becomes more divergent, but in general, all
models turn the cyclone toward the northwest and north. Of the
historically reliable models, the westernmost track is the ECMWF
ensemble mean while the easternmost is the HWRF. The NHC track
forecast is in the middle of the TVCX and TVCN multi-model
consensus, and does not depart very much from the previous official
forecast.

There will be very interesting days ahead as Matthew moves toward
the central and western Caribbean Sea, and users are reminded that
the average NHC track errors at days 4 and 5 are on the order of 180
and 240 miles, respectively.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 29/0300Z 13.9N 63.1W 55 KT 65 MPH
12H 29/1200Z 14.3N 65.3W 60 KT 70 MPH
24H 30/0000Z 14.4N 67.9W 65 KT 75 MPH
36H 30/1200Z 14.3N 70.0W 70 KT 80 MPH
48H 01/0000Z 14.1N 71.5W 75 KT 85 MPH
72H 02/0000Z 14.5N 73.5W 75 KT 85 MPH
96H 03/0000Z 16.8N 75.0W 90 KT 105 MPH
120H 04/0000Z 20.0N 75.5W 90 KT 105 MPH

$$
Forecaster Avila
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
42861 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:12 pm to
Avila is my favorite, he is always colorful with his wording in the advisories.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

Avila is my favorite, he is always colorful with his wording in the advisories.


Yeah, I think that last part is code word for, "if we bust majorly on this, F you!"
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:30 pm to
Looks like the 18z GFS & HWRF are going to end up too strong and too far north in the short range.

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:32 pm to
Some OT ballers boat didn't make it through the day down in Barbados

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:55 pm to
Pretty steady short term SW trend on the last 3 GFS runs through 72 hrs.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65901 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 11:01 pm to
Dang it. I told them to dry dock my boat.

Just can't get good help these days.
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2635 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 11:11 pm to
Well hell...guess it's time to restock the old charcoal and jim beam stash anyway
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 2:12 am to
quote:

Looks like the 18z GFS & HWRF are going to end up too strong and too far north in the short range.
GFDL is pretty much the only model keeping it as far south as it's been so far. It's also one of only a few models that keeps it west of Jamaica eventually... now that's not really something to worry about yet, but it's interesting.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16216 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:43 am to
quote:

Avila is my favorite, he is always colorful with his wording in the advisories.
meh... I prefer Stewart.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16216 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 4:46 am to
quote:

GFDL is pretty much the only model keeping it as far south as it's been so far. It's also one of only a few models that keeps it west of Jamaica eventually... now that's not really something to worry about yet, but it's interesting.
interesting for sure. Due to its remarkable consistency for a while now, I believe the GFS will be right and this thing will further east than the NHC forecast now.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
42861 posts
Posted on 9/29/16 at 5:25 am to
Their all good to be fair, anyway Matthew is still being sheared as the convection blob is displaced to the north and east of the center.
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