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re: Storm Aftermath - Hurricane Matthew will be Retired

Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:52 pm to
Definitely intensifying...

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:53 pm to
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Yeah that is true but you then have a southwest wind that pushes water out as the storm passes through. I was just trying to give him an idea of how little room for error there may be but that a storm that stays out to water is obviously better.


No worries, that's what happens when a structural guy (me) tries to rehash things he learned in hydraulics a decade ago.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 10:56 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21473 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:54 pm to
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Explain it to me like I'm 5.







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I click on Forecast Models, Global, GFS, then...?


Click GFS, then pick "Western Atlantic" for the Region, then Lower Dynamics, Surface Pressure
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59237 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:54 pm to
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your phone getting blown up


Yep starting about an hour ago. Now under hurricane warning
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:54 pm to
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Click GFS, then pick "Western Atlantic" for the Region, then Lower Dynamics, Surface Pressure





Thank you kind sir. I figured the region was the thing messing with me, but I didn't feel like going through every option.

ETA: The fact that you have to select different regions to get different map options sucks, but on a free website I'll still take it.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 10:56 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21473 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:55 pm to
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Definitely intensifying...


You see the term "hot towers" thrown around a lot but that surely looks like legit hot towers going up in the eastern eye wall.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:55 pm to


Yikes.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31584 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:57 pm to
What's a "hot tower"? Sounds like some sex position
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31584 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:58 pm to
Humane Society here asking the public to shelter their dogs for the night
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:00 pm to
LINK

It's a sign of a hurricane intensifying. Basically a cloud expanding vertically due to increased energy or latent heat.
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
2100 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:02 pm to
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Additionally, consider what that must have been like before all of this early warning and weather tracking. You go to sleep one night and wake up to that kind of beast at your doorstep with no other warning. Holy cow...



Somewhat related to that. Anyone else ever heard stories from family members talking about the occasional "fall cyclones."

I have heard family stories passed down which include this reference. Always assumed it was referring to tropical storms/hurricanes.

Even as a kid it made me wonder about people being impacted by hurricanes without the benefit of radar, etc. Of course they were much more in tune with natures signs than we are but still that would leave very little warning.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21473 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:02 pm to
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What's a "hot tower"? Sounds like some sex position


In the correct usage, it refers to an overshooting top in the eye wall. The eye wall is made up of a bunch of rotating thunderstorms, when the updraft is particularly strong, the cloud can rise above the anvil level (where clouds typically flatten and fan out). This is another sign that intensification is underway.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:02 pm to
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You see the term "hot towers" thrown around a lot but that surely looks like legit hot towers going up in the eastern eye wall.



For those who don't know what this means - like me -
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A hot tower is a tropical cumulonimbus cloud that penetrates the tropopause, i.e. it reaches out of the lowest layer of the atmosphere, the troposphere, into the stratosphere. In the tropics, the tropopause typically lies at least 15 kilometres (9.3 mi) above sea level. These towers are called "hot" because they rise high due to the large amount of latent heat released as water vapor condenses into liquid and freezes into ice.

Hot towers are also known to form when a tropical cyclone is about to undergo an explosive intensification.




And quite possibly my favorite caption I've ever seen:

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Hot Tower in Hurricane Bonnie 1998. Altitude of clouds are exaggerated.


Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31584 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:03 pm to
Hot water vapor rises fast and freezes, and the static energy from this causes this "hot tower" plume? Is that the gist?
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:04 pm to
and then you have Nicole

lol

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:05 pm to


Heck of a simulated IR image...
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:07 pm to
GFS suggesting some Fujiwara action @ 102 hours.

Between Fujiwara and hot towers this thread probably needs an NSFW added to the title.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:10 pm to
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GFS suggesting some Fujiwara action @ 102 hours. Between Fujiwara and hot towers this thread probably needs an NSFW added to the title.


Throw in some civil liberties chat and you can talk dirty to me all night
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31584 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:12 pm to
We started with the Fujiwara maneuver and then finished in a hot tower
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:16 pm to
Some updated storm surge maps from the NHC now that we have the 11 PM EDT advisory:







This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 11:17 pm
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