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re: Sterling decision released by DOJ...no charges for officers
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:04 pm to RedHawk
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:04 pm to RedHawk
Still trying to wrap my head around this case. They literally want criminal charges because Alton was black. If he was white this wouldn't even be a story.
Disturbing.
Disturbing.
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:05 pm to Festus
Is it legal for Sterling to set up a fold out table and sell bootlegged CD's outside the Triple S Mart?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:05 pm to X123F45
So basic timeline:
- Police called about CD man with gun threatening someone
- Police arrive and order man to put hands on car
- Man does not comply
- Officers physically engage man but without success
- Salamoni pulls gun and threatens to shoot man
- Man puts hands on car
- Man attempts to remove hands from car
- Lake tases man and he goes to his knees
- Man gets to his feet and officers order him back down
- Man does not comply
- Lake attempts to tase man again without success
- Salamoni holsters gun and tackles man
- Physical altercation insues
- Verbal warnings continue
- Man's right hand is free and Salamoni yells that he's going for a gun
- Lake joins altercation and pulls gun
- Salamoni again yells that he's going for a gun and fires 3 shots
- Both officers roll away
- Man sits up and Lake yells for him to get on the ground
- Salamoni fires 3 more shots
- Police called about CD man with gun threatening someone
- Police arrive and order man to put hands on car
- Man does not comply
- Officers physically engage man but without success
- Salamoni pulls gun and threatens to shoot man
- Man puts hands on car
- Man attempts to remove hands from car
- Lake tases man and he goes to his knees
- Man gets to his feet and officers order him back down
- Man does not comply
- Lake attempts to tase man again without success
- Salamoni holsters gun and tackles man
- Physical altercation insues
- Verbal warnings continue
- Man's right hand is free and Salamoni yells that he's going for a gun
- Lake joins altercation and pulls gun
- Salamoni again yells that he's going for a gun and fires 3 shots
- Both officers roll away
- Man sits up and Lake yells for him to get on the ground
- Salamoni fires 3 more shots
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:06 pm to UpToPar
quote:
The US attorney said he pointed a gun at Sterling's head, not that he put a gun to his head. Those two statements conjure two very different mental pictures.
This and only after Sterling refused to comply twice when ordered.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:06 pm to bamaswallows
quote:
Attorney just said it's important to note Jeff Sessions is the atty gen! Implying racial bias
Obama's AG could have brought charges before leaving office.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:07 pm to Choupique19
We've learned, legality has nothing to do with this shooting. White shot black. Laws don't matter.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:07 pm to Kvothe
quote:
So many excuses. My, how the white man has fallen. I expect that weak shite outside the south but y'all are embarrassing. Do something already.
My house flooded and I still voted, but I'm just saying that I totally get it if people weren't concerned about a mayoral race between two terrible candidates less than 3 months after their entire lives were turned upside down.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:08 pm to SUB
I'm like 95% sure one of the officers said something like, "if you move again I'll fricking kill you" while they were on the ground struggling, then 2 seconds later you hear them yell gun and the shots. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's right.
Drastically different than saying they rolled up on the scene and said they would kill him, which didn't happen.
Drastically different than saying they rolled up on the scene and said they would kill him, which didn't happen.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:09 pm to lionward2014
quote:You don't understand the timeline. What you are referring to was while they were wrestling on the ground. The AG is talking about an exchange that no one has seen or heard yet because it happened before any cell phone video.
I'm like 95% sure one of the officers said something like, "if you move again I'll fricking kill you" while they were on the ground struggling, then 2 seconds later you hear them yell gun and the shots. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's right.
Drastically different than saying they rolled up on the scene and said they would kill him, which didn't happen.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:09 pm to ell_13
quote:
So basic timeline:
- Police called about CD man with gun threatening someone
- Police arrive and order man to put hands on car
- Man does not comply
- Officers physically engage man but without success
- Salamoni pulls gun and threatens to shoot man
- Man puts hands on car
- Man attempts to remove hands from car
- Lake tases man and he goes to his knees
- Man gets to his feet and officers order him back down
- Man does not comply
- Lake attempts to tase man again without success
- Salamoni holsters gun and tackles man
- Physical altercation insues
- Verbal warnings continue
- Man's right hand is free and Salamoni yells that he's going for a gun
- Lake joins altercation and pulls gun
- Salamoni again yells that he's going for a gun and fires 3 shots
- Both officers roll away
- Man sits up and Lake yells for him to get on the ground
- Salamoni fires 3 more shots
You didn't mention anything about race and those are the most important facts.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:09 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:
Obama's AG could have brought charges before leaving office.
Are the actually implying that Session even looked at this case? There isn't a Sessions/Trump appointee at the Middle District right now.
The US Attorney made it clear at the press conference that every attorney and agent that worked the case agreed with the ultimate conclusion and not a single one of them was given their position by Sessions or Trump.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:10 pm to UpToPar
Police officers are allowed the right to try and "escalate" a situation with force, to try to "deescalate" a situation. They are also allowed to lie, and mislead perps I order to gain compliance.
Had a 911 call stating he had threatened someone with a gun. It was probably well known who was working that corner(Alton Sterling), and the police knew his past track record.
Hate to use the term, but "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.".
Had a 911 call stating he had threatened someone with a gun. It was probably well known who was working that corner(Alton Sterling), and the police knew his past track record.
Hate to use the term, but "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.".
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:11 pm to bubbz
quote:
People have applied for permits to protest for the weekend on some parade routes, such as Spanish Town
frick. Thought I could avoid the shitstorm.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:11 pm to Lsupimp
it's honestly just him pandering to a select group of students. I honestly don't give a shite what they do. Just don't involve me-- and honestly the majority of students because we don't care.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:11 pm to BilJ
quote:
They got what they wanted, they screamed bloody murder for them to make this a federal matter and now since they don't like the results want to cry about it
Because they assumed that the feds would bring charges with Obama and Lynch in charge. But in reality, the officers were found to be justified so Obama and Lynch kicked the can so that Trump's administration could be accused of being the bad guys, racists, etc
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:11 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
The US Attorney made it clear at the press conference that every attorney and agent that worked the case agreed with the ultimate conclusion and not a single one of them was given their position by Sessions or Trump.
you assume they were listening...or care about facts.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:11 pm to Choupique19
quote:
Is it legal for Sterling to set up a fold out table and sell bootlegged CD's outside the Triple S Mart?
He wasn't selling CDs. Not at 2:30 in the morning. Everybody knows this.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:13 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Salamoni then re-holstered the gun after this.......
This and only after Sterling refused to comply twice when ordered.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:14 pm to Antonio Moss
If they polled the Middle District I'm pretty confdent a large portion are not Trump voters/supporters, anyone saying there was a political bias involved in the decision making is an idiot.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:14 pm to X123F45
quote:
I'm gonna print that for the gun range
Now THAT is good thinking. Aim for the gold teefs!
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