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re: State Of Emergency Declared Amid Violence At Charlottesville's 'Unite the Right' Rally
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:22 am to Janky
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:22 am to Janky
They are apparently not accepting his condemnation because he more so condemned all hate groups, and didn't single out just the one. Apparently some violent hate groups are okay to not condemn their actions, just not others.
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:24 am to Janky
That article was in November. 
Let's get with the more recent events and times, i.e. A white nationalist killing people with his car on Saturday at a pro trump rally
Trump, once again, fails to condemn Alt-right...
Let's get with the more recent events and times, i.e. A white nationalist killing people with his car on Saturday at a pro trump rally
Trump, once again, fails to condemn Alt-right...
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"We should call evil by its name," tweeted Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, the most senior Republican in the Senate. "My brother didn't give his life fighting Hitler for Nazi ideas to go unchallenged here at home."
"Very important for the nation to hear @POTUS describe events in #Charlottesville for what they are, a terror attack by #whitesupremacists," tweeted Sen. Marco Rubio, a competitor for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination.
"Mr. President - we must call evil by its name. These were white supremacists and this was domestic terrorism," tweeted Sen. Cory Gardner, a Colorado Republican.
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Scott Jennings, a former special assistant to President George W. Bush, said Trump's speech was not his "best effort," and faulted the President for "failure to acknowledge the racism, failure to acknowledge the white supremacy, failure to acknowledge the people who are marching around with Nazi flags on American soil."
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:34 am to Spaulding Smails
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Let's get with the more recent events and times, i.e. A white nationalist killing people with his car on Saturday at a pro trump rally
Pro Trump rally?
The date doesn't matter. He called them out and basically said to frick off, I am not with you.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:34 am to Spaulding Smails
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Trump, once again, fails to condemn Alt-right...
Probably because it's a meaningless term.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
The term meant enough to a kid in a Dodge to drive him to mow down pedestrians
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:39 am to Spaulding Smails
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The term meant enough to a kid in a Dodge to drive him to mow down pedestrians
So, that is on trump?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:47 am to Janky
He didn't actually drive the car himself, but his administration defunded anti-nazi programs in America
Trump department defunds anti-nazi programs
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Trump department defunds anti-nazi programs
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In January, before President Barack Obama left office, DHS announced it would be giving grants to Life After Hate and 30 other anti-extremist groups and law enforcement agencies, but the Trump administration suspended them before the money had been awarded. The new list of grantees announced today by Trump’s DHS includes groups that combat Al Qaeda and ISIS and leaves out organizations primarily focused on countering white supremacists and other far-right hate groups. Perhaps this should come as no surprise because, as Reuters reported in February, Trump transition officials as far back as December were debating changing the focus and name of the program from “Countering Violent Extremism” to “Countering Islamic Extremism” or “Countering Radical Islamic Extremism.” President Trump has also made it a habit to largely ignore attacks committed by anyone who doesn’t qualify as a “radical Islamic terrorist.” “Obviously we are disappointed in that decision,” Life After Hate co-founder and board member Tony McAlver told Mother Jones. Comprised of 50 former members of right-wing hate groups, Life After Hate has received 10 times more requests for help in the past year than in the previous five years combined, McAlver says. The organization was hoping to secure a $400,000 grant from DHS, which would have allowed Life After Hate to expand its efforts with an in-house tech team to identify and counter neo-Nazi recruitment online. “It was not to pay salaries and stuff,” McAlver says. “It was for a specific online campaign.”
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:48 am to Spaulding Smails
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The term meant enough to a kid in a Dodge to drive him to mow down pedestrians
Alt right didn't drive the kid to do stupid stuff. It's a version of the right that rejects mainstream conservatism and can be claimed by many different groups. Nationalism is one of their common ideologies, which is different than white nationalism, though white nationalists are certainly capitalizing.
It's kind of like using the term feminist. The feminism flag is carried by several different groups, all very different.
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The "Alternative Right," or more commonly, the "alt right" is a diverse assortment of people, mostly online, who identify as right-wingers but consider themselves either opposed to, or profoundly alienated from mainstream American conservatism — usually because they view it as being too liberal, or preoccupied with the wrong issues
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The "alt right" exists mostly in the form of an archipelago of blogs, podcasts, and social media accounts, many of which center around a single pseudonymous commentator. The ideologies espoused by "alt right" types can vary greatly, but broadly speaking includes certain sorts of extreme libertarians, immigration critics and "race realists" (basically intellectual racists and anti-semites), "neo-reactionaries" (who argue against democracy, human rights, and other manefestations of modernist philosophy), and anti-feminists, including some of the "Men's Rights" crowd. But there is also a more generic or moderate flavor of alt right thought that may not fully embrace any of the above agendas, but still be sympathic to their contrarian messages of skepticism towards prevailing conventional wisdom on matters like race, gender, and party politics.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:48 am to Spaulding Smails
Oh, now I get it. It's your shtick. You are a troll, carry on.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:49 am to Janky
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The term meant enough to a kid in a Dodge to drive him to mow down pedestrians
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So, that is on trump?
About as much as the Dallas cop killings were on Obama.
So no.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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About as much as the Dallas cop killings were on Obama.
So no.
That is precisely my point. However, I have realized this fool is a troll and I am out.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:58 am to Janky
Countering stuff you said with stuff you disagree with is not trolling. But run back to the poli board safe space, the conservative circle jerk is going great over there
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:59 am to Janky
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That is precisely my point. However, I have realized this fool is a troll and I am out.
Yes, and a diligent one. It's all he does
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:33 am to OweO
Even more fallout from this. The University of Florida has cancelled a speaker who was coming to campus in mid September. They know the loons were coming. They said it was cancelled due to possible violent protests.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:46 am to Hangit
And so it continues...
YouTube/Google shutting down conservative based content creators.
Twitter/Instagram deleting conservative twitter accounts
Now institutions, cities, organizations are shutting down conservative speakers due to "fear of violence"
Only one side is allowed "Free Speech" rights.
Conservatives being labeled "alt-right"
Alt-right being labeled Neo-Nazis.
If this trend continues the great United States of America will be run into the ground like Venezuela in less than 2 decades.
YouTube/Google shutting down conservative based content creators.
Twitter/Instagram deleting conservative twitter accounts
Now institutions, cities, organizations are shutting down conservative speakers due to "fear of violence"
Only one side is allowed "Free Speech" rights.
Conservatives being labeled "alt-right"
Alt-right being labeled Neo-Nazis.
If this trend continues the great United States of America will be run into the ground like Venezuela in less than 2 decades.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 8:49 am
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