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re: Starting salaries
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:28 am to JumpingTheShark
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:28 am to JumpingTheShark
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$55k
This right about the starting salary for Staff 1s in audit for the Big 4
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:29 am to Wayne Campbell
He also puts these two in the same category:
While I guess these are "starting" salaries. The disparity in level of education makes this laughable.
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College professor 40k
Police Officer 40k
While I guess these are "starting" salaries. The disparity in level of education makes this laughable.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:29 am to Wayne Campbell
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So these jobs are equal in your mind?
question not directed at me, but I'll answer.
one profession generates revenue.
the other does not.
no one will argue that a Starbucks girl is more important than a school teacher.
however, the owner of Starbucks profits a lot more $ off of the cashier than the school board does off of the teacher. So the starbucks girls in turn gets paid more.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:32 am to KG6
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supply and demand
Right. And I think supply/demand is founded on the principle of how important society thinks things are. If no one demanded the NFL, it wouldn't exist in its current grandeur or be supplied in such grandeur.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:33 am to Gloryheauxl
Tbh, I thought it was the manager.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:35 am to celery01
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Elementary school teacher
should be performance based.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:36 am to celery01
Starting salary is complex b/c it takes into account several factors. No two employees are the same. Similar, but not the same.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:37 am to Bmath
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While I guess these are "starting" salaries. The disparity in level of education makes this laughable
I worked at a college for almost a decade. Starting professors at a place like LSU don't deserve more than that. Prove yourself first.
And the amount of education doesn't mean much to me for those two starting salaries. Education isn't the end all be all
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:38 am to Bmath
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He also puts these two in the same category:
quote:
College professor 40k
Police Officer 40k
While I guess these are "starting" salaries. The disparity in level of education makes this laughable.
and the actual responsibility....right?
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:38 am to Nutriaitch
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one profession generates revenue. the other does not.
This is an over simplistic way of looking at things.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:39 am to celery01
My opinion is that the market should set starting salaries for all jobs
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:41 am to Nado Jenkins83
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should be performance based.
How does one measure this? Obviously not standardized test scores.
Yeah plenty of kids benefit from good/great teachers while others are brought down by bad ones.
However, there are kids that are going to succeed and others that fail regardless of the quality of the teacher.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:42 am to shotcaller1
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How does one measure this? Obviously not standardized test scores.
Yeah plenty of kids benefit from good/great teachers while others are brought down by bad ones.
However, there are kids that are going to succeed and others that fail regardless of the quality of the teacher.
teachers need to be replaced by robots in my perfect world future. enough of them teaching opinions and not facts
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:44 am to Nado Jenkins83
Education level
Work history
Market value
Work history
Market value
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:44 am to Vino24
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Right. And I think supply/demand is founded on the principle of how important society thinks things are. If no one demanded the NFL, it wouldn't exist in its current grandeur or be supplied in such grandeur
supply and demand is only part of it.
how much direct revenue does a teacher generate?
we would have to revamp the entire system for them to earn more money.
as in we would have to charge per each individual student. and give those students the freedom to somewhat choose which teachers they had.
then the best teachers would make a ton of money and the crap ones would be replaced as often as backup kickers.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:46 am to shotcaller1
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How does one measure this?
It's a pretty massive debate. One that we haven't come close to answering as a country. The problem is, we have too many people looking at schools as a balance sheet. And too many people who think they're experts on teaching just because they went to school.
Case in point, the nominee for Secretary of Education's inability to distinguish between growth and proficiency.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:47 am to ellishughtiger
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CPA for big oil company can make $250k+ within a few years at the company.
Maybe the top .02%
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:47 am to Jones
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Prove yourself first.
Under the current model, they do. That's the whole idea behind requiring publications for graduating with your PhD. After graduation, most post doctoral researchers make around $40k. Here they are required to continue publishing their research and acquire funding through grants. At this point, they are actually making money for the University.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:49 am to Nado Jenkins83
Teaching is the only job in the world that can't be evaluated by performance. It's impossible according to them.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:51 am to yellowfin
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Teaching is the only job in the world that can't be evaluated by performance.
The problem is that it is highly dependent upon the students. Yet, we use the same metrics to evaluate regardless of schools that serve upper-middle-class families or inner city families.
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