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re: star soccer player was kicked off the team after refusing to wear a Gay Pride' jersey

Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by Cherry Cheesecake
Gonzales, LA
Member since Oct 2010
1066 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Or maybe she sucks?


ISWYDT
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79835 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:17 pm to
Who should they have left off the roster to give her a spot?

She’s competing for a spot on the absolute best Women’s soccer team in the world.

Who gets bumped?
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
5612 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:18 pm to
There are some non American soccer officiandos that say she is the best female Left Back(soccer position) in the world.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52639 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Yes, I'm saying that her beliefs about homosexuality could be dangerous to team chemistry.

Tell me how that is religious persecution.


The bold portion of your post fits the very definition of the word persecution. Even if it wasn't the coaches, if she was ostracized by teammates because of her religious beliefs, that is literally persecution.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58618 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:20 pm to
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Who am I knighting for?
talking about low IQ.
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That's just a very low IQ statement. You're usually better.
you keep saying people are looking for a "gotcha" when it looks like you are the one who is always waiting for a "gotcha"
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:21 pm to
Emily Sonnett
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52639 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:21 pm to
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There are some non American soccer officiandos that say she is the best female Left Back(soccer position) in the world.


I know nothing about women's soccer players, outside of Alex Morgan being hot, but that would make this SO much better.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21401 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:22 pm to
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Was it her beliefs that would damage the team chemistry or not?

Probably more her actions, you know by showing her teammates she doesn't support them
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:22 pm to
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hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.


What part of that applies to a fringe talent not making a world cup team? Was she entitled to a spot on the roster? Was she beaten, ridiculed, harassed, etc by team members?

We may have differing opinions on hostility and ill treatment.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:22 pm to
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There are some non American soccer officiandos that say she is the best female Left Back(soccer position) in the world.


I’d say she is
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135028 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:23 pm to
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She’s competing for a spot on the absolute best Women’s soccer team in the world.


Which isn’t even as good as some amateur 14 year old boys
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 12:23 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52639 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:23 pm to
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Probably more her actions, you know by showing her teammates she doesn't support them


So she has to support her teammates for being gay, but they don't have to support her for being a devout Christian?

That seems, hypocritical.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:24 pm to
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Which isn’t even as good as some amateur 14 year old boys


Mic drop
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:24 pm to
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There are some non American soccer officiandos that say she is the best female Left Back(soccer position) in the world.




There are a couple of American soccer writers that have said similar, but have also said she didn't really elevate her game until recently.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:24 pm to
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talking about low IQ.


Does that mean you can't tell me who I'm knighting for?

quote:

you keep saying people are looking for a "gotcha" when it looks like you are the one who is always waiting for a "gotcha"


When have I ever denied that?

I'm very straightforward with what I do here.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52639 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:24 pm to
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What part of that applies to a fringe talent not making a world cup team? Was she entitled to a spot on the roster? Was she beaten, ridiculed, harassed, etc by team members?

We may have differing opinions on hostility and ill treatment.


No, we don't. You just can't use the definition of persecution correctly in this instance because it doesn't fit your stance.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:24 pm to
Dallas > USWNT
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:25 pm to
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You just can't use the definition of persecution correctly in this instance because it doesn't fit your stance.


quote:

hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.


Religious persecution: crucifixion, stoning, not making the USWNT.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52639 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:26 pm to
Right. Being left off of a roster because your teammates didn't accept your beliefs isn't facing hostility or ill-treatment.

You're on a roll.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52639 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Religious persecution: crucifixion, stoning, not making the USWNT.


Oh look. There's another one of the massive logical leaps you love to take.
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