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re: Stanford study says masks are ineffective, have devastating health consequences

Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:26 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39898 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:26 am to
It’s my opinion that masks haven’t prevented the spread of this virus. Science doesn’t have to be molecular in level. Data analysis is science too and the data has shown no to worse outcomes in highly masked areas.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68937 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:27 am to
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Are the health consequences the same for health care workers who have always had to wear them for work? If not, why?


Nobody was wearing a mask all day every day.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50590 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:28 am to
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It will soon be 0 studies as anyone who disagrees with the CDC is deplatformed, aren’t they dawgfan?


Someone mad that their little theory isn't accepted by the medical community
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69730 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:28 am to
Who?
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16459 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:28 am to
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Before the pandemic, can you recall a time your doctor wore a mask in your presence when he/she wasn't on their way to surgery?

That is primarily who I'm talking about. Also dentists wear them. Wearing a mask has been a normal part of the job for a lot of Healthcare workers for a long time. So if this study is legit, wouldn't they be at risk as well?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:28 am to
Also...my dad was diagnosed with AML back in 2017. In order to enter the AML clinic, we had to sanitize our hands and put on a mask. Every time we left the clinic for any reason, we'd have to replace our mask with a new one because we were leaving a sterile environment.

How often do you replace your mask?
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9472 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:29 am to
The author makes quite a few hypothetical leaps in the study - which may or may not flesh out. After all the article is titled, "a health hypothesis."

You added the "devastating" part to your title for attention and with hopes of having people align with your view.

I'm the first to say, masks do not need to be a permanent or even normal part of our lives. I feel bad for children who are growing up and see it as normative like putting on a shirt or shoes.

Also, I read most of the article and many of the impacts are from "chronic" hypoxia, but I'm unsure the length of time that the author sees as chronic nor did I read any of the cited studies. I think the psychological effects are a leap but I see the point about communication and social relationships.

All said, we've been in masks for much of a year....it's soon time to make them a thing of the past.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:29 am to
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So if this study is legit, wouldn't they be at risk as well?


No. Because they would take their mask off as soon as they were done with their work. They then replace it with a brand new mask when they start working again.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58330 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:30 am to
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One whole study huh?


No, not just one.

quote:

Yall will latch on anything just to prove a point


Irony.
Posted by Bamadog75
Alabama
Member since Mar 2017
1503 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:31 am to
Show Me a study done on masks that is peer reviewed and it works over and over the same. You cant because there isn't any. Masks don't stop viruses, especially cloth masks. You have to be an idiot to believe anything the government agencies tell you. Have some common sense and quit being a dumb arse.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50590 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:32 am to
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No, not just one.

I'm sorry one whole hypothesis
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Irony.

You're latching onto to some hypothesis that hasn't even been peer reviewed dude
Posted by Jyrdis
TD Premium Member Level III
Member since Aug 2015
13106 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:32 am to
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One whole study huh? Yall will latch on anything just to prove a point



It contains reviews of several studies. But we all know you only accept the science results you agree with.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16459 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:32 am to
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Also...my dad was diagnosed with AML back in 2017. In order to enter the AML clinic, we had to sanitize our hands and put on a mask. Every time we left the clinic for any reason, we'd have to replace our mask with a new one because we were leaving a sterile environment.

How often do you replace your mask?



You are now making an argument about the effectiveness of wearing masks for covid. Arguing that masks are ineffective for this virus is one thing. But to argue their long term health consequences is another. Your study says it's dangerous. So I would think that'd apply to traditional uses of masks as well. But I'm genuinely asking because I could be wrong
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25454 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:32 am to
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"Trust the science."
"No, not that science!"


The Party must approve all science.

These apostates, heretics, and dissenters from The New Orthodoxy must be ridiculed and destroyed.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
50590 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:33 am to
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Have some common sense and quit being a dumb arse.

It's common knowledge that while not completely effective non N95 masks do cut-down on the spread but sure man whatever you say
Posted by Notnac
Vidalia
Member since Nov 2020
881 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:33 am to
Who are the frickheads downvoting OP? You must be so stupid that you won't listen to reason. You are so blinded by politics that you will disagree with anything that doesn't fit your agenda.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16459 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:33 am to
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No. Because they would take their mask off as soon as they were done with their work. They then replace it with a brand new mask when they start working again.

Gotcha. So the health risk is the improper use of wearing them. That actually does make some sense
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15833 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:33 am to
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"Trust the science."
"No, not that science!"


Relax and wait for the peer review
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69730 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:34 am to
Glad we got Dr Faucci here to explain muh science to us.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65937 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 10:34 am to
It's not crazy to say prolonged mask use increases the risk of respiratory issues, even for doctors and dentists. That's why they use them how they use them. Why don't medical workers wear them 100% of the time at work?
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