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re: Stand up comedians aren’t funny. Change my mind
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:16 am to HempHead
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:16 am to HempHead
quote:*pulls out dental dam*
Dude was a straight street philosopher. Uncanny insight in to women.
"uh, what is that?"
"oh, I'm just going to lay this over your vagina in case it kills me"
"I'm sorry, what did you say?"
"Nothing! Forget it! I'd rather die than insult my way out of some pussy. I'd rather just get what you got!"
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Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:18 am to Korkstand
quote:I watched about 2 minutes of it. I kept waiting for actual jokes. Instead it was just a bunch of references (verbal and visual) to Prince. Since I never cared about Prince my interest in the subject is limited.quote:I like Pryor too, but it seems like you're thinking too hard about Chappelle's Show instead of just enjoying it.
I've seen Clayton Bigsby (the big reveal is stolen from an old Samuel Fuller movie) and the N***** Family.
I didn't find it funny or even satiric. It's like satire for people who've never heard of Pryor.
Would you mind watching a 6 minute sketch and tell me what you think? True Hollywood Stories (Prince) w/ Charlie Murphy
There's nothing I love better than good comedy, and I'd love to see more of it today. I'm a big Norm Macdonald fan. But too much comedy now is recognition references, notice humor, and cheap insults. And I haven't even mentioned the PC Police who are doing their best to prevent anyone from ever laughing at anything.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:19 am to deeprig9
quote:is someone else who makes me laugh
Brian Regan
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:27 am to Sheftie
quote:I've seen this response before, most notably from our old colleague from Xavier of Ohio. I mentioned my favorite movie was made in the 1940s, and he deduced from this that I must be in my '70s.
From the ancient movie references and Family Circus shite ive seen you post ill take a swing that youre in your 60s
If I like Mozart does that mean I'm 246?
This is a fascinating viewpoint: that you must like, and prefer to everything else, the shite you were forcefed when you were a teenager: the shitty music on the radio, the movies, the TV shows.
There is one thing I have learned from this website, and that is that people take their nostalgia very seriously indeed.
quote:(Whew!)
Youre not suppose to like chappelle show. Its fine
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:35 am to Kafka
quote:
If I like Mozart does that mean I'm 246?
Yes basically
Dude you're old as frick its ok. I'm sure Bob Hope had his moments
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:41 am to Kafka
quote:So you watched 2 minutes of a 6 minute joke and complain that there weren't any jokes?
I watched about 2 minutes of it. I kept waiting for actual jokes. Instead it was just a bunch of references (verbal and visual) to Prince.
quote:So you are unable to think a joke is funny if the underlying subject matter doesn't interest you?
Since I never cared about Prince my interest in the subject is limited.
quote:Are you describing the Prince sketch?
too much comedy now is recognition references, notice humor, and cheap insults.
quote:There's no way you're complaining about Chappelle being PC.
And I haven't even mentioned the PC Police who are doing their best to prevent anyone from ever laughing at anything.
Look, if you had just said you don't like it, it's not your thing, that would have been fine. But you keep insulting it. Makes you look like an arse.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:42 am to Kafka
quote:So you are in your 60s, then?
I've seen this response before, most notably from our old colleague from Xavier of Ohio. I mentioned my favorite movie was made in the 1940s, and he deduced from this that I must be in my '70s.
If I like Mozart does that mean I'm 246?
This is a fascinating viewpoint: that you must like, and prefer to everything else, the shite you were forcefed when you were a teenager: the shitty music on the radio, the movies, the TV shows.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 3:51 am to Korkstand
quote:No, I am not.
So you are in your 60s, then?
Are my judgments valid now?
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:02 am to Korkstand
quote:When the basic approach of a parody is recognition, you will probably not find it funny if you aren't familiar with the subjects of the parody.quote:So you are unable to think a joke is funny if the underlying subject matter doesn't interest you?
Since I never cared about Prince my interest in the subject is limited.
As far as the Prince is concerned, I kept waiting for an actual joke, about his clothes, effeminate voice and manner, etc... Instead all there was was him looking like Prince.
Somebody above brought up Bob Hope (derogatorily of course) so I'll use him as an example. He made a private eye spoof called My Favorite Brunette, which bears some plot resemblance to the earlier film Murder, My Sweet (from a novel by Raymond Chandler). I saw MFB when I was about 10, having never seen, or even heard of, MMS or Raymond Chandler. Yet I still thought it was hilarious, because it had actual jokes and wasn't based solely on familiarity with the parody subject.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:03 am to Kafka
quote:Older?
No, I am not.
quote:It just seems like if a joke doesn't fit into your model of what a joke should be, then it's inferior in some way.
Are my judgments valid now?
If it doesn't make you laugh, fine. But to go on and on about it being "cheap" or "trying to be this thing that I like but not" or whatever the frick, it comes across like a superiority complex.
Lighten up and open your mind.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:10 am to Korkstand
quote:Well, yes
It just seems like if a _____ doesn't fit into your model of what a _____ should be, then it's inferior in some way
quote:
But to go on and on about it being "cheap" or "trying to be this thing that I like but not" or whatever the frick, it comes across like a superiority complex.
Lighten up and open your mind.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:10 am to Bamafig
quote:This is so old and played out. You hate on comics for not being "original", you should take your own critiques and use them on yourself.
Change my mind
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:16 am to Kafka
quote:How can you act like you don't know who Prince was? You don't need some deep understanding and familiarity with him. You just need to know who he was.
When the basic approach of a parody is recognition, you will probably not find it funny if you aren't familiar with the subjects of the parody.
quote:Well, the other 4 minutes of the sketch does have jokes about all of those things, but you would never see the real joke coming if you haven't seen the sketch before. And the real punchline is it's probably not a joke at all.
As far as the Prince is concerned, I kept waiting for an actual joke, about his clothes, effeminate voice and manner, etc... Instead all there was was him looking like Prince.
quote:I guess there were multiple jokes at the very beginning before your 2 minute attention span ran out?
Somebody above brought up Bob Hope (derogatorily of course) so I'll use him as an example. He made a private eye spoof called My Favorite Brunette, which bears some plot resemblance to the earlier film Murder, My Sweet (from a novel by Raymond Chandler). I saw MFB when I was about 10, having never seen, or even heard of, MMS or Raymond Chandler. Yet I still thought it was hilarious, because it had actual jokes and wasn't based solely on familiarity with the parody subject.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:26 am to Korkstand
quote:I wasn't speaking only of this sketch there.quote:How can you act like you don't know who Prince was? You don't need some deep understanding and familiarity with him. You just need to know who he was.
When the basic approach of a parody is recognition, you will probably not find it funny if you aren't familiar with the subjects of the parody.
I guess the best example of what I meant would be a bit on the Jimmy Fallon Show w/Fallon and Justin Timberlike, that is apparently considered a classic in some circles. It was some sort of rap battle, w/one guy doing old rap, and the other guy doing new rap. Well I avoid rap like the plague (or the Covid). What was I supposed to respond to?
quote:If there was even 1 that was 1 more than this Prince sketch had
I guess there were multiple jokes at the very beginning before your 2 minute attention span ran out?
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:34 am to Kafka
quote:Well, that's pretty close-minded, don't you think?
Well, yes
And I've said multiple times it's fine if you don't like it or it's not your thing. But you are acting as if you are the arbiter of humor, and you insult anything that you don't like.
Aside from OP who apparently doesn't like anything, everyone in the thread is talking about what they like. You are the only one shitting on the things other people like.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 4:52 am to Kafka
quote:But your complaint is specifically about not being familiar with the subject of a parody. What other bits/sketches are you talking about?
I wasn't speaking only of this sketch there.
quote:In this example, the entirety of the "joke" is the music and the performers themselves. If you don't like the music, and you don't like the performers, there's nothing left to like. That's understandable.
I guess the best example of what I meant would be a bit on the Jimmy Fallon Show w/Fallon and Justin Timberlike, that is apparently considered a classic in some circles. It was some sort of rap battle, w/one guy doing old rap, and the other guy doing new rap. Well I avoid rap like the plague (or the Covid). What was I supposed to respond to?
But if you go on to insult it in multiple ways (which, let's be honest, the intent is to insult the people who like it), that's less understandable. That's more a reflection of your character than your sense of humor.
quote:The Prince sketch has a "long" 2 minute set up before making the obvious jokes, and the meat of it is an unexpected joke. There is also humor in the narrator's delivery, who by the way is Charlie Murphy, Eddie's late brother, in case you were unfamiliar with him, too.
If there was even 1 that was 1 more than this Prince sketch had
It may not be your idea of "good" comedy, but don't act like only an idiot would like it.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 5:29 am to Bamafig
You sound like you're the life a the party baw.
Have you ever heard of Sebastian Maniscalco? He don't talk about none of that crap you listed.
Have you ever heard of Sebastian Maniscalco? He don't talk about none of that crap you listed.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:09 am to YouAre8Up
Comics are funnier when you see them live. Plus they are way funnier on their podcasts.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:19 am to Bamafig
quote:
Stand up comedians aren’t funny. Change my mind
For the most part, I agree with you. On the rare occasion when I listen to one, I never laugh out loud like many do in the audience.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:35 am to Kafka
quote:
Instead it was just a bunch of references (verbal and visual)[quote
[quote]But too much comedy now is recognition references, notice humor, and cheap insults.
sounds like 90% of your posts
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