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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134673 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:16 pm to


quote:

I was then and am still white.


Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:17 pm to
Good point.


I'm not a lawyer so I never thought of it that way.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:18 pm to
I don't understand why that is surprising. Cops
Are looking for crime so they stop any thug looking ride for breaking laws to see if more is going on. And don't say they stop them for no reason bc the cops here do that crap all the time. It's common and brings in big bucks.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61459 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Here's a homework assignment for you. Find a black person, preferably male, of roughly the same Socio economic status as yourself and ask them how many times they been handcuffed by the side of the road and had their car searched. Compare that to your own experience. Report back.


I have two that I talk to. One daily, one monthly.

Neither have any bad cop experiences. One grew up in Houston, the other in Baltimore. Both have highly successful families in spite of tough situations.

My friend from Baltimore lost both parents in a train accident when he as around 10, raised by his 18 year old sister, scholarship to run track at a Big East School, now is a professor at a College in NJ. Lived in Conn, La, Tx, AZ, NM, Wash, and has never had an issues. I just texted him, "what do you think of Ferguson", his response 1)f u, quit trying to keep me down.
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25349 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

You live in a shitty county.



Because there is no black male of roughly the same Socioeconomic status as myself?


Please tell me how you went from one observation to that conclusion.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

I'm not a lawyer so I never thought of it that way.


Not claiming to know the answer. Just curious. McCulloch did say they will present everything, whatever that means.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61459 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Another of my friends who is white drove a stereotypically black car (older model Impala with some modifications) with tinted windows. He got pulled over on the reg too until he traded it for a 70s Vette


Got a white friend of mine ddrove a truck with extra tint, he has a letter saying he can do it because of the transport of a product he sells.

He got pulled over on the regular, he got it lightened to legal, but it still looks dark, and he still gets stopped. He gets pulled over because he is too stubborn and likes dark windows. I drive the same truck, with the factory tint and have never been pulled over.

We generally choose our own misery.

Posted by Ellis Dee
G-Lane aka Pakistan
Member since Nov 2013
7069 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:25 pm to
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However, I'm a bit sad that I fell asleep and missed the peace train last night.


I thought shite was really gonna pop off when the cops started strong arming the peace train.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 6:26 pm
Posted by DrTyger
Covington
Member since Oct 2009
22325 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Here's a homework assignment for you. Find a black person, preferably male, of roughly the same Socio economic status as yourself and ask them how many times they been handcuffed by the side of the road and had their car searched. Compare that to your own experience. Report back.


Asked a black colleague of mine.

He said zero. The same number of times as me.

And he's from Houston so it's not like he grew up in a low crime area.

You know the difference? He's educated, well mannered and not a total shite head.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

And don't say they stop them for no reason


Are you claiming there aren't occasions when they stop people for no reason or even for a bad reason?
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25349 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

You know the difference? He's educated, well mannered and not a total shite head.


And likely did not commit a serious traffic crime in front of a cop.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

I thought shite was really gonna pop off when the comes started strong arming the peace train.



I'm sad that I missed the peace train. I only saw the pic posted here. Was it actually moving, and if so, how?

Who the hell tries to arm a peace train?

Eta: I saw your edit to "strong arm".
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 6:28 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36339 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

We generally choose our own misery.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36339 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

Are you claiming there aren't occasions when they stop people for no reason or even for a bad reason?


You should come check out our inspection sticker checkpoints. It's essentially LEO's way of giving them probable cause to stop every white person.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:29 pm to
This will die down a lot now, IMO. Mostly because the media is more focused on the beheading of the journalist.

Hopefully they stop instigating shite.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Ellis Dee
G-Lane aka Pakistan
Member since Nov 2013
7069 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Was it actually moving, and if so, how?

Yep, it was, and the front car had an engine of some sort

quote:

Eta: I saw your edit to "strong arm"


the edit was actually for "cops"..I put "comes" instead of "cops". My coffee hasn't kicked in yet
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

But I do think the people of fergusons "played" their emotional card too early. What it really is is the pain that seems to have passed down over generations..


That is your best post. That is true and if not passed down you would hear a lot less about it. I'm not sure this isn't a chicken vs egg came first argument though because I can see from the last few days how much these people absolutely hate cops so I find it hard to beeline they are very respectful when there is an encounter.
And I've had way worse treatment from cops dude and I'm white.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

Yep, it was, and the front car had an engine of some sort


That is so awesome. I'm really sad that I missed it.


quote:

My coffee hasn't kicked in yet


At first I was like wtf, then I saw that your location says Pakistan. Wow!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

Because there is no black male of roughly the same Socioeconomic status as myself?


It would not be the first time I was wrong. But I've never lived in the county where there arent black people the same socioeconomic status as myself. And I've lived in a lot of counties and I've had several different socioeconomic statuses.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14992 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:39 pm to
Anyone post the story about Missouri law and Police being able to use deadly force and George Washington law professor commenting on it??

I have link, but don't want to Pearl Harbor, Germans invade france it.
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