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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:11 am to
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20887 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:11 am to
all communication has been cut off since shooting
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:12 am
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15003 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:12 am to
im out

cyall back in here tomorrow!
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:12 am to
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you sure that'd be a good idea? eta: an investigation is still ongoing as far as I know


How long did it take for George zimmermans name to be released? Was that investigation still ongoing?
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4729 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:15 am to
Oh shite. Is the person the cop shot dead? Around what page did it happen? TIA
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:17 am to
This entire discussion has been hashed out on here somewhere around page 130. I'd prefer not to do it again, but here is my last attempt before I hit the hay.

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People in this thread are making guesses on what they think actually happened, some more educated than others. So yes, whether or not brown had priors is not relevant at this point.


You couldn't be more wrong. If we are speculating about the details, it is prudent to know as much as possible about the people involved. If the police officer had prior issues, I'd like to know. The same is true for Mr. Brown. It is asinine that you are trying to argue otherwise.

If we knew the officer had been convicted of police brutality two times in the past, then wouldn't that have an effect on your speculation?

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It's you using specific words and phrases to frame the context of the scenarios to fit the narrative you are pushing.


Oh the irony.
Posted by Ellis Dee
G-Lane aka Pakistan
Member since Nov 2013
7069 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:22 am to
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How long did it take for George zimmermans name to be released? Was that investigation still ongoing?


not quite sure I'm getting where you're coming from?
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:25 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:25 am to
(yo message)
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:25 am to
I think it's very interesting how you cherry pick what you want to quote and respond to. Especially interesting that you cut off the following part of my post, presumably so you wouldn't have to respond to it:

"Even if true, just because he had prior run ins does not mean he's automatically at fault here. Surely, in a hypothetical future run in you have with police you wouldn't want to be automatically assumed guilty because of your prior experience with a dirty cop."
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:30 am to
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not quite sure I'm getting where you're coming from?


Just furthering expanding on someone else's point from earlier that civillian's names are released all the time in these situations, even in cases of self defense. Why isn't consideration given to them that it may not be a good idea to release their names while an investigation is still on going?

Zimmerman is the best recent parallel to this situation with all of the racial storylines. How long did it take for his name to be released? I honestly don't remember.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:33 am to
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Oh shite. Is the person the cop shot dead? Around what page did it happen? TIA


Just happened in the last 45 mins or so. Everything is silent from official sources right now.
Posted by cacspertheghost
Member since Aug 2014
106 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:35 am to
He got shot 10 times

LINK
Posted by BhamBengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
2476 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:41 am to
Anonymous claims they have obtained audio files of the police dispatch and EMS during the shooting of Mike Brown and will release ASAP
ETA
6 to 8 hours from now they'll be released
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:49 am
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4729 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:41 am to
I was talking about the police shooting tonight but I wonder who's alter you are
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:46 am to
quote:

St. Louis Co Police tell me ofcr shot a man who pointed handgun at him at Chambers & Sheffingdell at about 1 a.m. Man in critical. #ferguson


From reddit.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:49 am to
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CORRECTION: Officer-involved shooting was in unincorporated North #STL County, east of #Ferguson @ Chambers & Sheffingdale.


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Police resp. to report of men with shotguns and shots fired. Police came, saw "multiple subjects running." Man pulled handgun on officer.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:51 am to
Wtf
Posted by lake2280
Public intellectual
Member since Nov 2012
4474 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:16 am to
Nice, one less on welfare sounds like.
Posted by RDRGeaux09
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2013
1186 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:23 am to
Article from deadspin
America is not for black people
LINK
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:24 am to
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RDRGeaux09





Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 7:24 am to
quote:

I think it's very interesting how you cherry pick what you want to quote and respond to.


I responded to your original concern, and my post directly addressed the relevancy of Michael Brown's prior criminal history.

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Even if true, just because he had prior run ins does not mean he's automatically at fault here.


At no point have I said otherwise. I've questioned what happened between the officer pulling over to confront Brown and the eventual shooting that followed, but I've never once insinuated Brown was at fault simply because of his hypothetical past.

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Surely, in a hypothetical future run in you have with police you wouldn't want to be automatically assumed guilty because of your prior experience with a dirty cop.


Wtf does this have to do with anything in the thread?

If I had a run-in with an officer, my criminal history, or lack thereof, would be a huge piece of the puzzle in lack of hard evidence. The same would be true for anyone, and it is one of the reasons you should always be mindful of your reputation. Look no further than Tony Stewart on Saturday. No one would assume foul play if it was Jimmie Johnson or Jeff Gordon.

I'm not sure why you said a dirty cop at the end of the hypothetical. Are you insinuating that any prior offenses are just trumped up charges that were the result of a dirty cop? I'm genuinely confused.

The bottom line is that you've spent the last few post questioning the relevancy of Brown's past as to whether or not he is at fault in any of this, and I've given multiple reasons why it is septa inky relevant. If we're speculating as to the missing pieces of the story, we should definitely take into account the character of the people involved.

I truly hope you're trolling. You can't be this ignorant.
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