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re: St Louis: Unarmed teen shot and killed by police, riot in progress.

Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by Ellis Dee
G-Lane aka Pakistan
Member since Nov 2013
7069 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:44 pm to
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Be advised concert at Verizon wireless is now letting out


this about to get real good.

eta: Wiz Khalifa, Young Jeezy, and a few others performed there tonight, for those who didn't know.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 11:46 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

You and I are off on the topic of picking your battles


You mean you realize that you truly are full of shite.

quote:

i'll just leave it at that


Of course you will.

I even dumbed down the comparisons for you because the first one is too hard
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

Would it change anything if the cop that killed him was black or is this just a complete racial thing?


Could care less what color either of them are. Plainly and simply about abuse of authority for me and the fact that there is very rarely accountability when they do exceed their authority.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134676 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:45 pm to
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this about to get real good.


Oh shite...
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15003 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:45 pm to
Here is a 2nd witnesses account, not sure if posted or heard?

LINK
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:45 pm to
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Then you go on to say everyone knows not all copse are the most intelligent people.


I said that? I don't think so I will have to go back and read it.

My point was everyone has heard the stories about cops abusing power...so why put yourself in position to be a statistic?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:46 pm to
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All tragic events. All unnecessary. All MUCH more believable than a cop shooting a kid for walking in the street.

The point isn't the believability quotient. I've got more examples if you want less believable ones.

Kid shot answering the door with a Wii controller as his dad is getting served with a warrant.

Bipolar man beat to death for arguing with cops.

Black guys car breaks down, police officer shoots him as he runs towards them to request assistance.

Let me know when you're done with my examples. I've got plenty.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:46 pm to
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No, you're not racist either. White kids never play in the street.


He's shown himself to be a racist on this board many times in the past. He's just been able to hide it better in this thread because he's been busy defending cops to the ends of the earth.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:46 pm to
I've already said that his earlier posts weren't handled well. I then said that I thought simply posting links of peaceful protests a better way to voice his side. Is it not?

And my whole point is that most people in here came in here with an agenda and refuse to recognize they they don't know any more about this situation than the other side. I'm not arguing for or against either side. I'm arguing against ignorance.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:48 pm to
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I really think it's closer to the witness story. Officer has a power trip. He tries to open the door, it bangs against the kid and bounces back. Officer re opens with door with gun drawn grabs kid and fires. Kid spins and runs with hands up and officer fires more rounds. I really think that's what happened.


If that turns out to be true, I'd be extremely disappointed.

It doesn't justify the vandals and rioters, but Brown deserves justice if that was the case. I'd be all for a murder charge in this case.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:48 pm to
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I really think it's closer to the witness story. Officer has a power trip. He tries to open the door, it bangs against the kid and bounces back. Officer re opens with door with gun drawn grabs kid and fires. Kid spins and runs with hands up and officer fires more rounds. I really think that's what happened. Nothing that has been reported makes me believe that this kid did anything wrong. The stolen property was debunked. The struggle for the gun doesn't seem accurate in most witness retellings.


Agreed! I don't think his friend is smart enough to get up there and tell a lie like that, and I think he knows he isn't which is why I believe him.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:50 pm to
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So you're saying the two witnesses - one that was not apparently involved - that gave personal accounts to major media outlets and the police made it up to fit a story? Because I know that they gave those accounts.




No. I'm saying that all we have a statements given by people on either side. No statements have been investigated, challenged or verified yet. I'm saying that all we know for FACT right now is what I stated. Everything else still needs to be investigated and, until that happens, no one knows shite.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60737 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:50 pm to
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Could care less what color either of them are. Plainly and simply about abuse of authority for me and the fact that there is very rarely accountability when they do exceed their authority.

I agree.

I will add that the media and public always latch on to the absolute worst stories like this. You can go to r/bad_cop_no_donut and other websites and find hundreds of terrible stories about abuse of authority, but most are merely an article and 2 min story on the local news. The stories that catch on are very questionable (apparently the kid went for a gun) or something retarded like Trayvon.

I don't get it.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:51 pm to
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The point isn't the believability quotient.


Believe may have been the wrong word, but don't be so dense to the actual point I'm making.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:51 pm to
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You have a predisposition that really limits your perspective. Maybe you need it to believe in your job, I don't know. But the police shite is going to change. One way or another. Either the police will change or the citizens will change it for them. I don't say that as a threat. It's just an observation.


What predisposition and how is it different from what you are saying except for the fact we are arguing opposite sides? That is illogical

When have I once given the impression I am not in favor of police reform?

What does my job have to do with any of this?
Posted by RDRGeaux09
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2013
1186 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:51 pm to
The fact that the police haven't questioned any witness in regards to this shooting and are protecting this cop so vigorously leads me to believe they have something to hide.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128859 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:52 pm to
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I don't get it.

The media relies on the police for information. The DA relies on police for subjects to prosecute and evidence. They both have a lot to lose on a daily basis to report the bad things with any sort of regularity.

So it doesn't get reported as often and it doesn't get prosecuted as often.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 11:53 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78790 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:52 pm to
Why are you ignoring that they've tried to interview a witness but he's been avoiding them?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:53 pm to
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The struggle for the gun doesn't seem accurate in most witness retellings.


Not only does it not mesh with witness accounts, but even that story in and of itself doesn't make sense. The kid is told to get off the street and gets so pissed for being told to get off the street that he decides you know what, I'm gonna kick the cops arse, get his gun and kill him. All because he told me to get off the street.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:53 pm to
Talked to him about jesus and said he would come back to talk to him about jesus some more.

Cracker cops shot him and he ran 24 feet and the cracker cops that shot him secured the crime scene and he didn't know why they shot him.

awesome video. He didn't want to be identified(Imagine that) He could be the one witness that exonerated this young teen.
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