re: Special K (ketamine) as a treatment for depression

I only have a few rules with drugs, but this a major one:

"When in doubt, do all of it."

I've used ketamine in ICU situations in patients with asthma who require sedation for intubation. It has mild sympathomimetic effects which helps reduce the bronchospasm during intubation.

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Special K (ketamine) as a treatment for depression
I only have a few rules with drugs, but this a major one:

"When in doubt, do all of it."

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Have you tried MXE? Or 3-meo-pcp?

MXE is an analog of ketamine and its quite lovely. Cheap, lasts longer and well is just a shite ton of fun. The hole experience is a bit too intense for my tastes but good for an evening of being confused as all frick.

I haven't tried 3-meo-pcp yet but its on my list

Damn dude! Jones is about to bring the pain on you!

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No shite. This isn't how I'd hoped this would go.

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High C, I get you.

I've worked in ERs before and this stuff has supposedly been used for a while now to bring people down from the brink of suicide.

I have a friend who is an army flight medic who said they give ketamine now for trauma/pain instead of morphine. Less memory of the traumatic event and less PTSD after the fact.

I'm all for the use of alternative treatments in psychiatry. Current meds are only about as effective as cognitive behavioral therapy and have god awful side effects.

I'm a med student, btw. As a doctor I would have no qualms what so ever with treating patients with ketamine or LSD, if it was in a controlled environment and with concentrations that have been studied and tested in patients, with positive results... this is assuming I wouldn't lose my license

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No shite. How is not being able to move without falling down a treatment for depression?

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Exactly this, just like all those people who think medical marijuana is a real thing. I mean, how can you treat your glaucoma with weed when you're so busy jumping off of skyscrapers attempting to fly or trying to run through concrete walls?

Do you do CBT? Also if things ever got that bad for me I would try electroconvulsive therapy.

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I'm going to sound like an a-hole, but I find this hole depression thing bullshite.

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I haven't really suffered from depression much, but I suffer from anxiety. I don't think you really understand how this works. You know that sinking feeling you get when something catastrophic happens before your eyes? That is chemicals in your brain causing you to feel anxiety about what happened before your eyes.

Now what would happen if you suffered from an affliction in which your brain has an abundance of this chemical? You would feel constant dread for no reason at all. It is not something you can just "shake off" and walk off. That is what it is like to have clinical anxiety. It is a disease in which your brain is constantly firing on your receptors for fear, to put it simply.

Depression is not simply "awww, I'm sad" like you seem to imply it is.

Granted, I feel that psychiatrists WAAAAY over-prescribe patients pharmaceuticals. And a lot of anxiety/depression can be cured with therapy and behavioral changes, absolutely.

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People functioned for centuries without going to a psychiatrist to tell them they need to take pharmaceuticals.

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People with psychiatric issues prior to pharmaceuticals suffered with their issues by abusing alcohol and other intoxicants which have existed for thousands of years, committed suicide, were put away in asylums, or killed, etc.