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re: SpaceX Starship Full Stack Test Flight Thread | Cleared Tower, Thru MaxQ, then RUD

Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by Relax
Fort Walton Beach, FL
Member since Nov 2005
282 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:47 pm to
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The pad, orbital launch mount, and tank farm are destroyed


What are you basing this on? From what I've seen, yes there's a crater under the OLM, and I'm sure there's damage to other areas, but the OLM still looks like it held up well enough as does the tank farm. Even if there is some damage to the exterior covers of the tank farm, that's an easy fix and likely just cosmetic in nature. Of course I could be wrong also, but I don't think we can draw conclusions until we get more information.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42009 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:33 pm to
Looks like from rewatching and good twitter detectives a HPU failed at MaxQ (HPU = Hydraulic Press Unit)

Seeing as the next SN's are all electric we Should get a better test flight.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
81864 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:37 pm to
So...anyone buying the Starship Torch for $175?





Pre-Sale
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5101 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 4:17 am to
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Looks like from rewatching and good twitter detectives a HPU failed at MaxQ (HPU = Hydraulic Press Unit) Seeing as the next SN's are all electric we Should get a better test flight.


All the flights will get better with each test. Today was completely normal and expected. Most people forget Falcon 9 failed on its 1st 3 attempts now it is the most reliable vehicle in history.
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5101 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 4:20 am to
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The pad, orbital launch mount, and tank farm are destroyed though - and that is where I will say that they failed. It’s going to take months to get that repaired. Maybe they planned on the pad, but I don’t think they expected that damage to the tank farm.


Tank farm is fine. There are some dents in the outer shell of the tanks but it is just a covering then 1.5m of insulation and nitrogen before you get to the real tank. OLM is also fine. The pad will need to be reworked but that is no big deal.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32747 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:18 am to
Jesus, Savanah on NBC's morning show is literally arguing with the expert that this was a huge failure for Musk.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:26 am to
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Jesus, Savanah on NBC's morning show is literally arguing with the expert that this was a huge failure for Musk.


Pretty much everyone in the media is stupid. Especially women in the media.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23220 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:57 am to
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Jesus, Savanah on NBC's morning show is literally arguing with the expert that this was a huge failure for Musk.


Per Biden's orders

The media need failures and bad things to make them relevant, so the create them.

Launch was a win. Just look at this

2019


2023
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
2431 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:39 am to
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Pretty much everyone in the media is stupid. Especially women in the media.


It’s a combination of Elon hate and lazy reporting. Anyone that has followed SpaceX knows that their development methods are completely different than everyone else’s, and are more successful.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5810 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:03 am to
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Jesus, Savanah on NBC's morning show is literally arguing with the expert that this was a huge failure for Musk.


They're still mad about Twitter, that's all.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68325 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:36 am to
The launch was obviously a failure because the vehicle was indeed lost. However, failure is always momentary. They’ll learn from this and try again later. This isn’t the end. Eventually that starship will fly.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19846 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:49 am to
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Anyone that has followed SpaceX knows that their development methods are completely different than everyone else’s, and are more successful.

Are they though? 21 years in existence, still only doing low earth orbit. In 15 years of existence nasa had been to the moon several times and launched a space station.
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3391 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:56 am to
Mad props to that camera tripod on the right of the video. Takes the hurricane force winds and debris like a boss.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21123 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:02 am to
Why was it doing flips before exploding?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:03 am to
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Are they though?
Yes

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21 years in existence, still only doing low earth orbit. In 15 years of existence nasa had been to the moon several times and launched a space station.


NASA had like 8% of the entire county’s GDP to work with.

Now NASA can’t even land on the moon without SpaceX.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19846 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:11 am to
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Now NASA can’t even land on the moon without SpaceX.

Which is funny, because as of right now they've never even been to the moon or even lunar orbit.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23220 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:12 am to
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Are they though? 21 years in existence, still only doing low earth orbit. In 15 years of existence nasa had been to the moon several times and launched a space station.


That just set the bar high for dumbest thought

Landing a booster back on Earth to be reused is actually a bigger deal than landing on the moon from the standpoint of advancing space flight.

Moon was sexy as hell, but what SpaceX is doing now will actually lead to regular people colonizing other space objects.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19846 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:21 am to
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Moon was sexy as hell, but what SpaceX is doing now will actually lead to regular people colonizing other space objects.

*may
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23220 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:28 am to
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*may


Ban bet
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
69223 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:36 am to
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The launch was obviously a failure because the vehicle was indeed lost.


What?

They were never going to bring the vehicle back. The entire plan for the vehicle was for it to live at the bottom of the ocean.
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