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Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:00 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:00 am to
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Then come to the realization that Starship is considerable LARGER than what you're looking at.


Starship is larger than a Saturn V?
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 11:47 am to
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Starship is larger than a Saturn V?


24 feet longer than Saturn V, and considerably heavier as well.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Let’s hope he can live a very long life


Lets hope the left doesn't try something
Posted by Neveragain
Ok, maybe one more time
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:27 pm to
I knew he was an alien and this proves it
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:49 pm to
Beginning today, SpaceX will send more vehicles to orbit in a 72hr period than Europe has sent all year.

3 Falcon 9 and one Starship IFT6.

Also worth noting, this is the last version 1 vehicle to be launched. They removed some of the heat tiles to collect data, so it might get crispy like IFT4. It will be a daytime landing in the Indian Ocean. Hopefully, it survives enough for some good buoy footage.
Posted by TheosDeddy
Member since May 2024
762 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 12:55 pm to
What's gonna happen with the ship itself on today's launch. Not the booster.
Posted by BPTiger
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 1:32 pm to
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The barge was just to get the proof of concept event away from land, not to mention Starship is many times larger and would be far harder to catch on a barge. For perspective, go look at one of the remaining Saturn V's at a museum. The one in Huntsville AL is the best display. Then come to the realization that Starship is considerable LARGER than what you're looking at.



The barge is/was to keep things moving/growing fast at SpaceX. They couldn’t sit around and not launch rockets until they figured out how to catch them in the air.

The point of catching the heavies is so you can almost immediately relaunch with a new payload aboard. The payload is sitting there waiting. Rocket lands. Payload capped as fuel refills, launch again.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52455 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 1:37 pm to
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For perspective, go look at one of the remaining Saturn V's at a museum. The one in Huntsville AL is the best display. Then come to the realization that Starship is considerable LARGER than what you're looking at.




The part that is silver is the part that is landing for starship
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 1:37 pm to
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In fairness, it Kinda is because those are two different clips side by side.


Oh, so it's not Elon just showing off is big fireworks?
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 1:42 pm to
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The point of catching the heavies is so you can almost immediately relaunch with a new payload aboard. The payload is sitting there waiting. Rocket lands. Payload capped as fuel refills, launch again.


Unless I missed something somewhere, that is nowhere near the plan. Yes, it’s to facilitate turnaround, but it’s still going to get lifted from the pad and brought back to a facility for inspections and payload coupling.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4624 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 1:50 pm to
Like the girls say, bigger is better
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4624 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 1:54 pm to
I would not be surprised that Space-x Can turn them around directly in the next couple of years without taking them off the launch pad.

Land the booster, stack a new starship, fuel, launch.

I think Falcon 9 is now down to days rather than weeks between launches.

The cadence is improving by the month.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:12 am to


4PM CST today!
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:26 am to
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The point of catching the heavies is so you can almost immediately relaunch with a new payload aboard. The payload is sitting there waiting. Rocket lands. Payload capped as fuel refills, launch again.


Is there really that much demand for putting satellites in low earh orbit?
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 10:32 am to
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Is there really that much demand for putting satellites in low earh orbit?


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Dublin, Ireland, August 14, 2024--The Low Earth Orbit (LEO )Satellite Market grew from US$ 14.33 billion in 2023 to US$ 16.17 billion in 2024. It is expected to continue growing at a CAGR of 13.28%, reaching US$ 34.33 billion by 2030 according to new research from Research and Markets.


Source
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:14 am to
I'm not excited at all by the neura-link brain chip thing.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 11:20 am to
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I'm not excited at all by the neura-link brain chip thing.


What if his dream was to build a Time Machine instead of colonizing Mars?

What if he already has one?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:01 pm to
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Is there really that much demand for putting satellites in low earh orbit?


Musk’s vision for Starship is revolutionary in nature.

It’s more than putting single satellites in orbit, where the falcon would be better at anyway.

It’s having regular flights to the moon (each of which requires 8 or so launches to refuel a space tanker).

Flights to mars, possibly even regular flights supporting a permanent station.

It’s to expand and upkeep the Starlink cloud.

Also, it’s to facilitate point to point transit on earth, able to go from Brownsville to Beijing in less than on hour.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
30375 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 12:56 pm to
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It’s having regular flights to the moon (each of which requires 8 or so launches to refuel a space tanker).

Flights to mars, possibly even regular flights supporting a permanent station.


I know SpaceX will have some involvement in the Artemis program. Where are these other regular flights to the moon coming from? As for Mars, we probably need to tap the brakes on that idea for the foreseeable future. Permanent station… not happening for a very long time, if ever. I can see SpaceX doing very well with LEO missions though.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 6:55 pm to
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Where are these other regular flights to the moon coming from? As for Mars, we probably need to tap the brakes on that idea for the foreseeable future. Permanent station… not happening for a very long time, if ever. I can see SpaceX doing very well with LEO missions though.


Artemis is NASA.

Musk intends to push for lunar and Martian activity, unilaterally if needed. The main premise of SpaceX was to make space commercially viable. Dropping the government payload cost from 50k per kg to less than a grand per kg has already been achieved.

If it’s realistic that’s a different conversation. But that IS the reality they are developing Starship for.
This post was edited on 11/19/24 at 7:00 pm
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