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re: Southern Baptist Convention: IVF is a sin
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:29 am to Philzilla2k
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:29 am to Philzilla2k
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No, that would be government.
1a and 1b.
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:30 am to Jester
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If only the Baptists and Catholics would stay out of my way of life, I may be more understanding.
If someone decides not to utilize IVF due to their religious beliefs that’s fine.
The moment that belief is used to create legislation to ban IVF for everyone, it’s a problem.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:31 am to Philzilla2k
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No, that would be government.
Question: Is it the year 2024 in the middle east
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:31 am to BluegrassBelle
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If someone decides not to utilize IVF due to their religious beliefs that’s fine.
The moment that belief is used to create legislation to ban IVF for everyone, it’s a problem.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:33 am to JohnnyKilroy
Catholic doctrine? Will its priests burn in hell also? The Catholic church is the largest pedo ring out there.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:36 am to turnpiketiger
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Baptists are so freaking weird
Any time you find 4 Baptists together, you'll always find a fifth under the seat.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:37 am to turnpiketiger
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turnpiketiger
So, you're a Catholic who plans offspring.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:38 am to North Dallas Tiger
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Well my friend, that would be Nature. Because it does not happen in Nature, naturally, naturally speaking, of course...
You keep saying this, but when someone asks you about cancer treatments you say that it doesn’t destroy a life. But then you come back on and preach “naturally, naturally, naturally”
We have a son thru IVF. He’s the most precious gift, God has ever given me to steward over. I know God gave us the go ahead, thru many days and nights of prayer, to do IVF. It was brutal watching my wife every single month, for 7 years, be crushed.
My wife is a breast cancer survivor.
I thank my God everyday for modern medicine.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 7:39 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:40 am to catholictigerfan
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it's wrong to create a life in a petri dish, it is wrong to discard a life that was created in a petri dish and finally any life created in a petri dish is created in the image and likeness of God
What kind of God would consider it a sin of something created in his own likeness and why would he? Life that was created by IVF would still be life he created through others' participation and determination. IVF does not always work, right and if God is still the almighty creator then he would also have the ability to nulify the IVF. My guess is an all forgiving and all merciful God would not care about the creation of life made in his likeness, but thats just my type of God.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:41 am to North Dallas Tiger
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Think for a moment about the power to create a human life. The power of creation is sacred. Our power as humans to create a human life in the image of the Great Creator is very Holy and Divine. It's easy to see why. The power of creation is the power of God. Where in our Father God's creation (Mother Nature) do you see IVF?
This is as unnnatural as all the other stuff we all admonish in this, the month of June, in the year of our Lord, 2024...
Amen
It could be that God gave doctors the ability to aid people who could not conceive in the traditional manner so the miracle of life could come about even more often. Kind of like the two helicopters and the boat that the drowned man refused help from....
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:47 am to VanRIch
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Well my friend, that would be Nature. Because it does not happen in Nature, naturally, naturally speaking, of course...
You keep saying this, but when someone asks you about cancer treatments you say that it doesn’t destroy a life. But then you come back on and preach “naturally, naturally, naturally”
We have a son thru IVF. He’s the most precious gift, God has ever given me to steward over. I know God gave us the go ahead, thru many days and nights of prayer, to do IVF. It was brutal watching my wife every single month, for 7 years, be crushed.
My wife is a breast cancer survivor.
I thank my God everyday for modern medicine.
Anyone calling IVF a sin hasn't had to face the reality of not being able to have kids naturally. We're going through it now and are three years in but it's all to bring a child into the world. I had a rare testicular tumor when I was younger so it's the only way we can. I can't believe God would damn us for wanting to bring a child into the world.
It's always the people who have been able to have kids naturally that preach down to others about IVF.
frick off unless you've had to deal with it yourselves.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:50 am to VanRIch
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I know God gave us the go ahead, thru many days and nights of prayer,
Did you ever pray to God during ordinary sex your semen would impregnate her?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:00 am to Sao
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Question: Is it the year 2024 in the middle east
Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:06 am to Supravol22
quote:don’t bring God into a religious debate.
I can't believe God would damn us for wanting to bring a child into the world.
Best of luck to yall
Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:09 am to Jim Rockford
And they wonder why church membership keeps declining...
Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:14 am to tigerfoot
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don’t bring God into a religious debate.
I'm Methodist who attends at least twice a month. Want to know what matters most here?
30A debate.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:22 am to Sao
God hates 30a. My preacher told me. God is in Fort Morgan
Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:33 am to Carson123987
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I told them "ok so when you get cancer or something, make sure you dont do any chemo or radiation because it's obviously in gods plan and you shouldnt fight it" lol
very good rebuttal
Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:40 am to chRxis
Nah. Not a good rebuttal. We all abhor prayers, social media, science, God, Jesus, GoFundMe, Left, Right or SCLibertarion.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 8:46 am to North Dallas Tiger
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Well my friend, that would be Nature. Because it does not happen in Nature
Butt sex back on the menu boys!
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