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re: Something nobody is talking about regarding the Delta Variant

Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5213 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:06 pm to
I say quit screwing with vaccines ( and I’ve gotten 3 shots) and get some damn effective therapeutic protocols. Relegate it to an everyday illness level.
Why I can’t believe it is a really serious ailment:
-no therapeutics research
-allowing untold numbers of illegal immigrants w/o testing
-the overlords don’t participate in there own damn mandates
- survival rates are over 99%

And before you ask, I help care for elderly in-laws with compromised pulmonary conditions, that’s why I’m a 3 time jab victim
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:10 pm to
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So you think the virus is actually naturally occurring and did indeed jump from bats to human via the Wuhan Wet Market?



If there wasn't an occult infection at some point in an isolated human population, then the most likely source would probably be improper handling of sensitive samples, which could happen through a variety of means. The other possibility, select agent research, is more easily verifiable, for a very specific reason, as there are limitations on equipment and buffers. The specifics don't really matter to people when you being them up though.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:10 pm to
Clearly you don't understand the difference between a national broadcast channel and 24 hours news network channel.

Try harder.

Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:11 pm to
There are therapeutics for it. And more research is in the pipeline.


Try harder.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:12 pm to
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But, what you said is not really that hard to understand 


The immunological and microbiological concepts aren't hard to understand. Hell, taxpayers have already paid for this information, but most of the background is still paywalled, and not disseminated for some reason I don't understand myself.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71879 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:13 pm to
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Why I can’t believe it is a really serious ailment:
-no therapeutics research
-allowing untold numbers of illegal immigrants w/o testing
-the overlords don’t participate in there own damn mandates
- survival rates are over 99%


These are all valid points. The government cannot expect the public to take them seriously on the virus when they’re allowing tens of thousands of illegal immigrants be spread out into the general population month after month. And on top of that every time you turn around you see examples of the very leaders who preach about masks, shutdowns, and social distancing only following their rules when they know the cameras are on.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35750 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:14 pm to
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Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccines against the B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant

CONCLUSIONS
Only modest differences in vaccine effectiveness were noted with the delta variant as compared with the alpha variant after the receipt of two vaccine doses. Absolute differences in vaccine effectiveness were more marked after the receipt of the first dose. This finding would support efforts to maximize vaccine uptake with two doses among vulnerable populations.


LINK

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71879 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:15 pm to
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Clearly you don't understand the difference between a national broadcast channel and 24 hours news network channel.

Try harder.


I’m sorry. I cannot take you seriously if you honestly believe NBC is an objective news source. That’s laughable.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:17 pm to
Your schtick is an embarrassment to mankind.

It has been on every major network's nightly news. They are updates and report so and so is doing a trial run for this. That's all you get because they only have 20 minutes.

Once again please don't reproduce.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71879 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:21 pm to
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Your schtick is an embarrassment to mankind.

It has been on every major network's nightly news. They are updates and report so and so is doing a trial run for this. That's all you get because they only have 20 minutes.

Once again please don't reproduce.



Calm down my feeble minded young friend. And stop lying about what is or isn’t being reported by the news. Yes, boosters have been in the discussion for quite some time now. But the discussion is always about a third or fourth shot of the current vaccine. There is little to no talk of development of a new vaccine.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72870 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:24 pm to
how dare you form your own opinion and ask questions in regards to COVID. Shut up, do what you’re told.

Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7860 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:29 pm to
How many marbles you usually put in your arse?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71879 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:40 pm to
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how dare you form your own opinion and ask questions in regards to COVID. Shut up, do what you’re told.


Yep. You’re right. This is why the whole COVID situation is such a shite show. There is no better way to ferment mistrust in a group than to tell them to do something and not ask any questions.

Really, the best message from the government on vacation, masking, really the whole COVID thing would be to have no message at all past “consult with your doctor, who you know, who knows you and your medical history, and follow their advice”. Past that the politicians should keep their mouth shut on COVID.

I’d bet if they did this, the vaccination rate would be far higher and the mistrust and confusion regarding COVID would be far less.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44127 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Clearly you don't understand the difference between a national broadcast channel and 24 hours news network channel.


One lies during broadcast hours, the other lies 24/7?

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68911 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:45 pm to
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This finding would support efforts to maximize vaccine uptake with two doses among vulnerable populations.


Science lovers are definitely ignoring this science.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
72870 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:47 pm to
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Really, the best message from the government on vacation, masking, really the whole COVID thing would be to have no message at all past “consult with your doctor, who you know, who knows you and your medical history, and follow their advice”. Past that the politicians should keep their mouth shut on COVID.


correct.

Work across the aisles to provide the American people a vaccine ASAP.
Present the evidence, guilt trip free, of the success of said vaccine.
Allow people to consult their doctor and make a risk mitigation decisions on their own as far as masks and vaccines.

Walk away. That is the only role our government should have played in this mess.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57762 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:56 pm to
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The drug companies manage to come up with new flu vaccines every year because every year there’s a different variant of the flu.


We haven't been in widespread use of the current vaccines for even a year yet, hell we've barely had anyone fully vaccinated for a year yet. Delta just popped up a few months ago.

Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5213 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:33 pm to
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There are therapeutics for it. And more research is in the pipeline.


Please elaborate
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1797 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:44 pm to
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this is Reuters. Considered a neutral news source.


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In November 2019 the UK Foreign Office released archive documents confirming that it had provided funding to Reuters during the 1960s and 1970s so that Reuters could expand its coverage in the Middle East. An agreement was made between the Information Research Department (IRD) and Reuters for the UK Treasury to provide £350,000 over 4 years to fund Reuters' expansion. The UK government had already been funding the Latin American department of Reuters through a shell company; however, this method was discounted for the Middle East operation due to the accounting of the shell company looking suspicious, with the IRD stating that the company "already looks queer to anyone who might wish to investigate why such an inactive and unprofitable company continues to run."[47] Instead, the BBC was used to fund the project by paying for enhanced subscriptions to the news organisation, for which the Treasury would reimburse the BBC at a later date. The IRD acknowledged that this agreement would not give them editorial control over Reuters, although the IRD believed it would give them political influence over Reuters' work, stating "this influence would flow, at the top level, from Reuters' willingness to consult and to listen to views expressed on the results of its work.”
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