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re: Someone gonna get paid.. Did the water do this?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:15 pm to OceanMan
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:15 pm to OceanMan
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Yeah, I'm narrow minded. I'm not the one who just started thinking for himself when he went to college and is now questioning things he believed growing up.
What is your problem man? I made the statement to say I was pro life at one point and understand where pro life people are coming from. Then you make a statement like this.
Pretty sure most people who grow up in Catholic schools change their views drastically after leaving home. Once you see what life is really about.
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Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:15 pm to Barf
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This is not only bullshite, but I suspect it is also a lie.
Why would I have picked the most insignificant point you were making to comment on if it weren't true? It is true, I was with him, I saw the ticket.
And if you don't think it is bullshite in the sense the story is untrue, what sort of bullshite is it?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:16 pm to CAD703X
how does someone NOT KNOW the water could be bad?!
been aware of that for 40yrs...
I'm not sayin' she deserved it, she's just without a clue...
been aware of that for 40yrs...
I'm not sayin' she deserved it, she's just without a clue...
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:16 pm to StickyFingaz
Every woman is different when they get an ultrasound, I have a friend who is pregnant and did not hear the heartbeat until 8 weeks. Some of my friends have heard theirs at 6 weeks. It depends on the woman's womb, where her placenta is and so forth.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:18 pm to Beefherinthequeefer
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You will never know anything about how a woman feels during anything that goes on with her body. Just like I won't know how it feels to be a man. Like I said believe what you want. :) took my first line out.
This is just really a very typical, kneejerk, nonsense argument that this discussion always brings out.
Do you not understand that I fully support you and all women getting as many abortions as your withered uteri can withstand and actually might encourage it in many cases?
I am all for abortion, it would just be more productive if we called a spade a spade and stopped acting like it's primarily a women's health issue when it is a population control issue.
From the woman's perspective abortion can certainly be justified through the delusion that it is about their health, sure, everyone agrees with that. It's just flat-out dishonest to make the larger conversation exclusively about the health of the mother when it is about the sustainability of a wider population.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:18 pm to Beefherinthequeefer
That's why I said time AND development restrictions
ETA I've done plenty of research on conception and early differentiation of cells because of my line of work.
ETA I've done plenty of research on conception and early differentiation of cells because of my line of work.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:20 pm to ManBearTiger
Ok, but in some cases it is about the woman's health. Not just population control.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:22 pm to ManBearTiger
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Well I'm using the adoptions stats to paint a picture of what a world without abortion would be like with suddenly historic levels of unclaimed black children and their prospects of ever finding a home.
I am picturing a world where there is rampant violence within that community, due to undisciplined upbringings and never being held accountable for anything, which will undoubtedly encroach on other communities. I also imagine that members of this community will try and blame other communities for the problems they are experiencing. There will likely be lots of resources devoted to mitigating any spread of violence, but that would likely be met with more claims of discrimination.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:23 pm to StickyFingaz
Ok but is your stance pro or life?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:24 pm to Beefherinthequeefer
Sure, I never said it can't be used to help women.
I just think it's fundamentally dishonest or self-deluding that the entire conversation focuses on abortion as a women's health issue when clearly that is not why the great majority of abortions are performed.
I just think it's fundamentally dishonest or self-deluding that the entire conversation focuses on abortion as a women's health issue when clearly that is not why the great majority of abortions are performed.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:25 pm to Beefherinthequeefer
Women's health is a big part of it... It's easy to just throw on top.
This should be a valid question:
If the mother is deemed to be at risk because of the baby, is it morally wrong to abort?
This should be a valid question:
If the mother is deemed to be at risk because of the baby, is it morally wrong to abort?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:25 pm to StickyFingaz
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Like Ocean, he can't decide which side he's on regarding whether population control goes with or against his argument.
Heh?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:26 pm to OceanMan
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It is true, I was with him, I saw the ticket.
So? What's your point? There is no such thing. No such law exists.
Cops are cops, not lawyers or DA's. Just because he allegedly wrote something on a ticket doesn't make it factual. It is meaningless.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:26 pm to Beefherinthequeefer
That's a difficult question to answer.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:27 pm to StickyFingaz
Why? I'm just wondering
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:27 pm to StickyFingaz
I was starting to think I was alone on this.Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:28 pm to StickyFingaz
I would say no. Because she could possibly have another baby.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:30 pm to AnonymousTiger
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if little Susie down the street tries to commit suicide, it does not negatively impact my unalienable rights
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Little Susie is still a fricking criminal in this country.
What?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:30 pm to Beefherinthequeefer
Because there are many factors that go into making that decisions. I don't see it as cut and dry as pro life and pro choice.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:30 pm to OceanMan
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I am picturing a world where there is rampant violence within that community, due to undisciplined upbringings and never being held accountable for anything, which will undoubtedly encroach on other communities. I also imagine that members of this community will try and blame other communities for the problems they are experiencing. There will likely be lots of resources devoted to mitigating any spread of violence, but that would likely be met with more claims of discrimination.
I don't even know if we agree or disagree on this matter anymore.
What better argument could you have for the acceptance of abortion than these thoughts you just shared?
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