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Somebody fully explain how buying property with delinquent taxes works

Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:22 pm
There is a tax sale taking place next month in a local town. Some decent properties listed. If I was interested in going to city hall on the sale day, what is the exact process? Do you pay the delinquent taxes and become owner of the property? Does the property owner have the opportunity to recoup the property after it is purchased? Learn me something O-T
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:25 pm to
It may take a while to get a response, but the Money Talk is probably your best bet for an accurate answer.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:26 pm to
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the Money Talk is probably your best bet for an accurate answer.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:27 pm to
you will be met at the courthouse by a representative of the mortgage company that will ensure you are not the high bidder. Or a family member if the home has no mortgage.

Posted by StinkBait72
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:27 pm to
Every state is different. You may want to start by looking up the regulations or you will likely be throwing money into a hole. You can't ask for refunds and better know the ends and outs of each property before throwing money at them.
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:28 pm to
A professor I work with does this. It seems very low risk but takes some leg work. The biggest thing to worry about is having plenty of cash to cover the taxes.

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Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:37 pm to
"Typically" when the sale is made, the tax bill is paid first, then the "owner" gets the rest.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

There is a tax sale taking place next month in a local town. Some decent properties listed. If I was interested in going to city hall on the sale day, what is the exact process? Do you pay the delinquent taxes and become owner of the property? Does the property owner have the opportunity to recoup the property after it is purchased? Learn me something O-T


They have 3 years after tax sale to redeem the property. Also there will be subsequent tax sales if they continue to not pay - you buy it in the 2013, they don't pay again it goes to tax sale in 2014, they don't pay again it goes to tax sale in 2015.

The lendor will most likely eventually redeem the taxes if necessary in order to not lose collateral.

honestly not sure what happens after those three years pass though.

- Sherrif's sale is something different for properties which are foreclosed on.
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:40 pm to
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They have 3 years after tax sale to redeem the property. Also there will be subsequent tax sales if they continue to not pay - you buy it in the 2013, they don't pay again it goes to tax sale in 2014, they don't pay again it goes to tax sale in 2015.

It varies by jurisdiction. Some states have 12 month redemption periods. Some states have several years during which a property owner can redeem a tax lien. Hell, in some states it varies between counties and/or cities.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

They have 3 years after tax sale to redeem the property. Also there will be subsequent tax sales if they continue to not pay - you buy it in the 2013, they don't pay again it goes to tax sale in 2014, they don't pay again it goes to tax sale in 2015.
there are different laws in every state. OP needs to see if he's in a deed or lien state.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:42 pm to
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It varies by jurisdiction. Some states have 12 month redemption periods. Some states have several years during which a property owner can redeem a tax lien. Hell, in some states it varies between counties and/or cities.


Oh well, I am pretty sure its mostly three years where I work but could be wrong. I just have to report that the property taxes have not been paid and it has been sold at tax sale so never looked further into it.

What happens after the redemption period is up? You just own it? What if multiple people have acquired the "rights" for the same property in different years?
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted by weadjust
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:43 pm to
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Some states have several years during which a property owner can redeem a tax lien.


Some states also require the delinquent tax payer to pay interest to the person who paid the delinquent taxes during those years as well as the delinquent taxes.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Some states also require the delinquent tax payer to pay interest to the person who paid the delinquent taxes during those years as well as the delinquent taxes.


I think that is common plus marketing fees and other stuff tot the county for the property going to tax sale.
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:45 pm to
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What happens after the redemption period is up?


Again, depends by jurisdiction, but typically that's when a foreclosure filing can be made. Of course, I'm simplifying the process significantly.

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Some states also require the delinquent tax payer to pay interest to the person who paid the delinquent taxes during those years as well as the delinquent taxes.

Yes, very common. Some states charge an interest rate while others have a penalty that's charged. As a tax lien purchaser, you're entitled to the interest or penalty earned on the lien when the lien is redeemed.
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 12:47 pm
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:46 pm to
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you will be met at the courthouse by a representative of the mortgage company that will ensure you are not the high bidder. Or a family member if the home has no mortgage.




This

i went to a sheriff auction once to see how the process went. a rep from the mortgage ALWAYS bid until it got to a certain number on each property, then stopped. only one property do an individual get out of over 50 properties

there were also a couple of speculators that went very cheap on a number of properties, only to be out bid by the mortgage company

Another tactic, is wait to talk to the mortgage company after the bid about interest in buying the property from them.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:46 pm to
Usually I see it stated as a "1% interest in the property" when it goes to tax sale. So who would foreclose, do you essentially assume the position of a partial lender on the property when you buy it at tax sale?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:48 pm to
Anyone keeping up on the tax sales NOLA did a few years ago?

I don't recall all the controversies, but I remember it was a gamble on how they were going to handle the 3year wait period
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:49 pm to
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What happens after the redemption period is up?


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You just own it?


No you still have to file and prove the current owner was notified in the correct manner required by the law. A real estate attorney can help with this.

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What if multiple people have acquired the "rights" for the same property in different years?


Once you buy the tax lien you are "required" to pay the taxes for the next few years. If you do not they will just auction it off again and restart the process. If you do pay it keeps other investors from acquiring those same "rights" you already have.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25930 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:49 pm to
IF it is being auctioned at tax sale you have to be a cash buyer as well i believe. Not certain but i would think any delinquent taxes would need to be paid too.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:49 pm to
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i went to a sheriff auction once to see how the process went.


is a bit different than a tax sale

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a rep from the mortgage ALWAYS bid until it got to a certain number on each property, then stopped


they will receive the funds for any sale so they are bidding until it reaches their underlying loan value

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Another tactic, is wait to talk to the mortgage company after the bid about interest in buying the property from them.


ya they just don't want to get hosed on their loan, they usually have no interest in actually owning / managing a property
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 12:53 pm
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