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re: Solve this problem: how much did the owner lose?

Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:19 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:19 am to
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Simply put - they are ingnoring sunk costs


Because is a sunk cost. It is to be ignored.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:19 am to
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and now I forgot how we even got here.



Because anything other than $100 for the answer to the given information is overthinking
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61325 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:20 am to
Uh no.

You can’t ignore sunk costs on financial reports
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 9:21 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Because anything other than $100 for the answer to the given information is overthinking


frick it... the answer to the OP is $100
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 9:23 am to
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Uh no.

You can’t ignore sunk costs on financial reports


Yes you do. That inventory has already been recorded. You aren't going to re-record it. The loss will be written off to inventory when the actual inventory doesn't reconcile with recorded amount.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:06 am to
It's $100 just cause.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 10:20 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:08 am to
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 10:09 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:13 am to
Gained $100 cash
quote:

1. Lost $100 cash = $100 value
2. Gained $70 cash - Lost $70 in goods = Net even value
3. Lost $30 cash = $30 value

$100 + $0 + $30 = $130


ETA: Changed my mind, this is not correct


Your post should state:

1. Lost $100 cash = $100 value
2. Gained $100 cash - Lost $70 in good
3. Lost $30 cash = $30 value

This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 10:25 am
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26751 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:16 am to
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$70 cash lost, $70 product lost, $130 total value lost.

Let's say you had exactly $130 in the register. You end with $70, right? It's 130-100+70-30 = 70, so you're down $60 net, right?

You started with a store full of products worth whatever and ended with $70 less in products, $70 lost.

So $130 total?


It's impressive you got so much wrong in one post.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:19 am to
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It's impressive you got so much wrong in one post.

shite!!!
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 10:44 am to
The owner lost 30 dollars cash plus:
the COGS of the original item
the time it took him to pick it out
the shelf stocking time
the amount of energy the item took up
the opportunity costs on how easy the item is to replace
any staff time spent on the item
or he lost his COGS plus overhead rate.
Posted by manshipbk
Member since Aug 2018
104 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:08 am to
Well what’s the freaking answer then?
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88339 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Well what’s the freaking answer then?


one hunnid
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61325 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

The loss will be written off to inventory when the actual inventory doesn't reconcile with recorded amount.


You just proved my point. It’s recorded.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

You just proved my point. It’s recorded


The oppurtunity cost of the lost profit is not recorded. Only what was paid for the missing inventory. Market value is nowhere in the accounting of the inventory.
Posted by tigermike5
Member since Mar 2006
1287 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

The only thing I lost was the $5 cost of the stolen widget. How did I lose out on profit if I was able to easily replace it and fulfill the order? I still made the profit from the replacement widget and if you look at my books I only lost my $5 cost.


No you broke even. You had one widget stolen meaning you lost the 5 dollars you paid, so you spent another 5 dollars to replace it. You than sold that widget for 10 dollars. So your cost for the 2 widgets was 10 dollars and all you made was 10 dollars. Now if you sold the widget for say 7 dollars you have now lost 3 dollars on those two widgets.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 1:11 pm to
No Tommy, the answer was $100 dollars still
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 1:15 pm to
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Answer To Stolen Money Riddle
The best answer from the choices is the owner lost $100. The $100 bill that was stolen was then given back to the owner. What the owner loses is the $70 worth of goods and the $30 in change, which makes for a total of $70 + $30 = $100. The owner has lost $100.

Technically, the owner lost $30 plus the value, V, of the $70 of goods. Since stores typically sell goods at a markup, the value may be less than $70. But in the case of a loss leader, the owner may have lost more than $70.

Another strategy to solve the problem is to break it down into two stores.

Story A
A guy walks into a store and steals a $100 bill from the register without the owner’s knowledge.

How much money did the owner lose? Clearly the answer is $100. The owner is a net -100.

Story B
He buys $70 worth of goods using a $100 bill and the owner gives $30 in change.

How much money did the owner lose? The owner did not lose any money, this is a routine transaction! If the goods are valued at V, the owner is a net +100 – V – 30 = 70 – V.

The story in the riddle is the sum of the two stories. This means the owner’s position is the sum of the position in those two stories. The owner is a net -100 + (70 – V) = -30 – V. That is, the owner lost $30 plus the value of the goods. If the goods are valued at $70, then the owner lost $100.




Misconceptions

Many people think the answer is 200 dollars. It seems like the owner had $100 stolen, and then had another $100 stolen in the second story. But remember the thief also paid using the $100 bill, so the owner actually gets back $100. The owner’s loss is $100.

Some people think $130 because the owner lost a $100 bill and then gave $30 in change. But remember the owner also received a $100 bill, and also gave away $70 in goods. Adding up all the transactions leads to the owner losing $100.

The other incorrect responses are misunderstandings of a similar sort where people are not sure which numbers to add or subtract, or they are not taking into account all parts of the story.

It may help to view the two parts as separate stories and then add them up. The fact the thief paid with the stolen $100 bill seems to be another source of confusion. It does not matter the $100 was stolen; it only matters that the bill was genuine currency.
Posted by Belly
Member since Dec 2016
246 posts
Posted on 8/20/18 at 2:40 pm to
$30 plus whatever the owner paid for the items stolen.
Posted by UnoMe
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:51 pm to
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