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re: So with the Hospitalizations Plummeting and 70+ Group Vaccinated, JBE’s Next Move?

Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:11 am to
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3182 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:11 am to
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You need to stop thinking in absolutes


I've come to the conclusion that the majority of the population can't think in anything other than absolutes.

The doomer side has been especially annoying recently harping on what "could" happen. This just lines us up for a story I'm sure will come up shortly:

"You COULD infect someone when vaccinated, did you hear that story from Denver where a vaccinated wife infected her unvacccinated husband and he DIED??? We need to stay locked down until infections are ZERO!!!"

Never mind that when there are millions of human interacitons daily, this was bound to happen once, somewhere, to somebody, and it means absolutely nothing as far as vaccine effectiveness goes.


(the lockdown skeptic side has its own issues with absolutism - hence the excessive "sniffles" comments).
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49102 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:12 am to
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does that affect is one can/is asymptomatic or not?


It can but it may not. Some people just have better immune systems and can quickly handle cases even with higher viral loads.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49102 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:15 am to
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Assuming the vaccine works and since we have been told the vaccine merely softens the symptoms as opposed to stopping the spread


Perfect timing, this just came across the wire:


Lower Transmission Rates with Vaccine

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A paper published online Monday claims that positive test results of patients age 60 and over had up to 60 percent smaller viral loads on the test swab than the 40-59 age group, starting in mid-January, when most of Israel’s population age 60-plus had already been vaccinated with at least one dose.


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“Our result reflects great data, because it gives exactly what we want from a vaccine, namely that it reduces transmission,” Prof. Yaniv Erlich, head of the MyHeritage lab, told The Times of Israel on Monday. “It shows, to some extent, that this reduces viral load in the nose and throat, which is the main channel for transmission of the virus.”
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 9:17 am
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4453 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:16 am to
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The doomer side has been especially annoying recently harping on what "could" happen. This just lines us up for a story I'm sure will come up shortly:



This has been the entire time. Negative articles get more clicks. These articles are littered with "might", "may", "could", etc. Go to any site today and you will see articles written about a post Super Bowl surge in Tampa and all of the scary variants. Yet at no point in the pandemic have hospitalizations, new cases, etc. fallen at a rate that they currently are and there is barely a word written about it.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16038 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:22 am to
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Three million people die each year in this country.


Incredibly ignorant statement.

Death is a reality. Brilliant. You get an A for dumbass observation of the day.

Because of covid, More are dying now and our medical infrastructure has been strained several times. A large part of the objective is to keep hospitalizations to a manageable level. No one wants to get sick or injured or stricken with a heart attack and be told that there is no room. That has been a reality. Covid cases have taken up a large part of our medical resources.

You wouldn’t care though. You won’t believe anything I say. I just hope that you don’t have to find out the hard way.

This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 9:23 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23051 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:24 am to
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No one wants to get sick or injured or stricken with a heart attack and be told that there is no room. That has been a reality. Covid cases have taken up a large part of our medical resources.



Except that is not what is happening. 14 days to flatten the curve.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:27 am to
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No one wants to get sick or injured or stricken with a heart attack and be told that there is no room. That has been a reality. Covid cases have taken up a large part of our medical resources.


Just stfu already. That hasn’t happened

You are such a fricking Karen
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10947 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:28 am to
Smack smack we’re not quite ready to lift restrictions smack smack
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128035 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:30 am to
Because of the R supermajority in Louisiana there is an expiration date on this at some point for JBE.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10369 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:31 am to
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Incredibly ignorant statement.


It’s like you haven’t read your own posts on this board the last few days.

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No one wants to get sick or injured or stricken with a heart attack and be told that there is no room. That has been a reality.


No it hasn’t. The only reality related to non-covid cases being unable to receive medical care was in the beginning when they were literally not allowed to receive their care because the decision makers thought covid was worse than something cancer. Despite the incessant fearmongering by media and politicians that stupid people like you fell for, at no point has there “been no room” at hospitals.

As per usual, you’re just making shite up.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51941 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:32 am to
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No one wants to get sick or injured or stricken with a heart attack and be told that there is no room. That has been a reality.


That hospital you pass every day still working out of tents in the parking lot?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:32 am to
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As per usual, you’re just making shite up.



He can’t be this dumb. It’s gotta be a troll
Posted by piratedude
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2009
2776 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:35 am to
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Hospitalizations have PLUMMETED over the last 3 weeks as well as Deaths


Case numbers are still well above the Mid May and Mid October lows for infection, hospitalization and death.

if someone is hitting you in the head with a bat 100 times a minute, then reduces to only 50 times a minute, do you decide to take off your helmet because the number of hits PLUMMETS?

it's relatively better than it has been, but it's not good.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10369 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:39 am to
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Case numbers are still well above the Mid May and Mid October lows for infection, hospitalization and death.


A live look at politicians like JBE and people like you:

Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23051 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:45 am to
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Case numbers are still well above the Mid May and Mid October lows for infection, hospitalization and death.


First of all it’s the whole state which is misleading bc virus hit each region differently. NO had 1000 people in hospital in April. The peak in January, they had a couple hundred. In other regions, they had very little hospitalizations in April and got hit hard in July. In other regions, Dec/Jan was the big surge.

In all areas, the cases are plummeting to what they were mid Jan. That is a fact.

ETA: meant to say hospitalizations are plummeting in all areas. Cases may be as well but I only think that is relevant in a parish by parish evaluation since each parish handles when/where/if to test differently.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 11:10 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62105 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 9:58 am to
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No one wants to get sick or injured or stricken with a heart attack and be told that there is no room. That has been a reality


There have been people having a heart attack who were turned away from a hospital?
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
22633 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:02 am to
We've played the game for a year and it's time for this bullshite to stop and start opening up.

Every indicator is trending WAY down and there's a vaccine. If you're scared, stay home. Everyone else needs to get back to living life.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49102 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:13 am to
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Case numbers are still well above the Mid May and Mid October lows for infection, hospitalization and death.


Regardless of what we do, pandemics move in waves. The second wave is usually the worst. We are on the downside of the second wave. Hopefully, November - January was the worst of this pandemic.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23051 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:17 am to
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Regardless of what we do, pandemics move in waves. The second wave is usually the worst. We are on the downside of the second wave. Hopefully, November - January was the worst of this pandemic.


Virus hit the state at different times. Like I said earlier, the surge in hospitalizations in NO was much worse in April than January.
This post was edited on 2/9/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4453 posts
Posted on 2/9/21 at 10:23 am to
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Virus hit the state at different times. Like I said earlier, the surge in hospitalizations in NO was much worse in April than January.


No doubt. The summer surge was far worse for Lake Charles/Lafayette regions than either last April or this January.
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