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re: So we went to pizzeria this eve and had the opportunity to get waited on by a tranny
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:17 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:17 am to upgrayedd
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There's only one side pushing that dogma and it's not the side that will accuse you of being a marxist for not being antitrans
well thats bullshite
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but lying to yourself that it's just harmless activism designed to make people more acceptant of others isn't a good start.
who is lying to themselves?
I'm not going to abandon my beliefs/values now because I fear what some people may try to push in the future
we all have lines and we will all know them when we get there
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:18 am to Klark Kent
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fair. it certainly grinded your gears
Yes, the type of reasoning definitely grinds my gears
mostly because its such low level, binary and lazy type of thinking
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:19 am to upgrayedd
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It's not lazy, it's just a way to gain control over people.
Of course, the irony of these groups making these issues so extremely binary while preaching about how everything in their lives is non-binary, nuanced, and fluid is not lost on me.
Both sides do this. So, I'm curious, which groups on the Right employ these tactics, in your opinion?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:20 am to Salmon
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well thats bullshite
Not really. I don't see any groups of note saying that on the opposite side. That may be your perception of them, but I haven't seen anything definitive.
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who is lying to themselves?
You are. These movements have really nothing to do with acceptance other than a "you will accept me or else" stick disguised as a carrot.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:20 am to mmmmmbeeer
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But pushing for legislation to limit the rights of other individuals? Spewing hateful words in the faces of other individuals? Refusing to speak with/interact with someone because they're different than you? Unnecessary and purely counterproductive.
Are you talking about legislation pertaining to treatment for minors?
For additional clarification, by accepting people as they are...
The ACLU, teachers unions, etc. talk about topics like "men can have periods" or "men can get pregnant."
So am I violating your vision of "acceptance" by rejecting those attitudes and demanding they not be part of my child's education or advocating they not be part of my workplace?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:21 am to Salmon
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binary
well yeah
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:22 am to Salmon
why? you said yourself the line has moved over the last decades and will continue to move. just on the last page i believe. is it lazy thinking to assume what the next logical step will be?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:22 am to USMEagles
quote:The various sex defects are not as rare as you think. If you had a condition, would you tell everyone about it, or would you try to act normal? How would acting like something you aren't affect your mental health? If a sort of movement started, would you be more likely to come out and "me too" about it?
You're lumping a very rare, unfortunate form of birth defect together with something completely different in an effort to legitimize the latter. This is very insidious.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:22 am to WDE24
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quote: No different than people choosing not to eat somewhere because they aren’t “woke”.
I agree. OP is no different than those losers.
They might be losers, but not because they are choosing to use the power of their wallet to voice their opinion
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:23 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Both sides do this. So, I'm curious, which groups on the Right employ these tactics, in your opinion?
The left is the only side that has the power to forcefully implement their ideology on the general public. The right doesn't really control any major institutions of influence or power. And, don't go quoting some insignificant group like Turning Point or Focus on the Family as a counterpoint.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:24 am to Korkstand
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How would acting like something you aren't affect your mental health?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:24 am to upgrayedd
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Not really. I don't see any groups of note saying that on the opposite side. That may be your perception of them, but I haven't seen anything definitive.
I don't really keep up with "groups of not", but it is certainly a prevalent attitude on the internet and here
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You are. These movements have really nothing to do with acceptance other than a "you will accept me or else" stick disguised as a carrot.
so whats worse? lying to yourself about what is happening or just sitting back and letting it happen?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:27 am to Salmon
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I don't really keep up with "groups of not", but it is certainly a prevalent attitude on the internet and here
Yeah, like I said. Those aren't "groups of note" and no one here is saying that unless you're attending anti-tranny rallies, you're a communist. That's just your perception.
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so whats worse? lying to yourself about what is happening or just sitting back and letting it happen?
Good question. If you do anything other that option B, then you can have your livelihood destroyed, so I guess there are some tough decisions to make.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:31 am to upgrayedd
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The left is the only side that has the power to forcefully implement their ideology on the general public. The right doesn't really control any major institutions of influence or power. And, don't go quoting some insignificant group like Turning Point or Focus on the Family as a counterpoint.
Holy hell. Thanks for proving you're nothing more than a partisan hack.
The religious right? NRA? Anti-abortion? Anti-LGBTQ? The list goes on and on.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:32 am to upgrayedd
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That's just your perception.
literally the only reason why I'm considered a "prog filth" here is because I don't get mad at gay people on my TV, but ok This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:32 am to p&g
was this in Telluride by chance?
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:33 am to Salmon
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literally the only reason why I'm considered a "prog filth" here is because I don't get mad at gay people on my TV, but ok
You marched with a pink hat
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:34 am to SDVTiger
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You marched with a pink hat
"just my perception"
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:37 am to Salmon
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literally the only reason why I'm considered a "prog filth" here is because I don't get mad at gay people on my TV, but ok
doesn’t help you also spend most of your time on this website arguing with anyone remotely conservative and taking shots at anyone on the right side of the political aisle. yet never seem to take offense or problem with any person or talking point on the other side. (or at least not that i’ve witnessed)
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 10:39 am
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:38 am to mmmmmbeeer
quote:What?
Holy hell. Thanks for proving you're nothing more than a partisan hack.
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The religious right? NRA? Anti-abortion? Anti-LGBTQ? The list goes on and on.
Literally none of these groups has any influential power (the only one you could really make a case for currently is the anti-abortion group, but that's an extremely niche topic with no influence outside that topic).
Speaking of partisan hacks, it's ironic that you show you are one by thinking the NRA is some powerhouse. They've been a fricking dumpster fire for the last 6 years and it's only a boogeyman for uninformed lefty partisans.
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