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re: so POS Hitler survived WW11 after all

Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:50 pm to
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Also the body the Russians found was proven to be a body double as it was 2in smaller that Hitler.

They didn't find any body. It had been completely incinerated. I believe the only thing that didn't completely burn was a jawbone.

And the people that made it to the bunker escaped much earlier.
Posted by Bushmaster
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:56 pm to
I am on a project now that is a joint venture with a kraut engineering company. They have a dozen engineers on site here and don't think my Inglorious Basterds references are funny.

Posted by Festus
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:57 pm to


Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:17 pm to
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I heard the rumors in spook world for many years. This was the basis for the movie Boys from Brazil. But after watching Hunting Hitler this year and looking over the FBI declassified documents (done in 2014) it is clear that Hitler escaped to Argentina after the war. (His body turned out to be a women we know now though DNA analysis and none of his inner circle could confirm he committed suicide, and he was spotted many many times in South America. FBI didn't think he was dead either.

Literally no fricking credible evidence he died in the bunker with Eva Braun. (If she died) yet in every history book. Unreal




The Soviets found his corpse, ran forensic and dental analyses, and confirmed that it was Hitler. Plus, I'd love to know how he would manage to move to Argentina when he was literally breaking down both physically and cognitively from Parkinson's.

You probably watch shows like Mountain Monsters and believe those fatass morons run into supernatural creatures in the hills of West Virginia each week too.
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:22 pm to
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They didn't find any body. It had been completely incinerated. I believe the only thing that didn't completely burn was a jawbone.



They found his remains, charred as they were, and kept them until the KGB finally ordered the destruction of his remains in the 70's. As for the skull fragment, I wouldn't put much stock into that. Half of the rumors started about Hitler escaping came out of the Soviet Union and, in particular, Stalin who was simultaneously still paranoid over Hitler's death but also wanted to play mind games with the West to destabilize the political environment.
Posted by BayouBlitz
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:43 pm to
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They didn't find any body. It had been completely incinerated. I believe the only thing that didn't completely burn was a jawbone.


The Ruskies were completely capable of trashing things German and losing track/evidence, etc.

Look what they did to the world class Auto Union cars. If I recall, one of their engines was found in a farm tractor in the middle of nowhere in Russia. An amazing example of engineering ended up in the hands of a farmer!

So yeah, Hitler died in the bunker. Ruskies ID'd body and didn't care much about preserving anything.

Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:33 pm to
LINK


Interesting page to read but you know, it's the internet. I do think it is plausible that he had a plan to get out. He was paranoid enough to have a plan in place for sure. I'd really like to see what Mossad has on this.
Posted by Mullet Flap
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:35 pm to
What is it with posters with

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This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Tortious
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:46 pm to
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I knew a girl in Germany whose Grandfather helped incinerate the bodies.


Sounds like a smoke show.
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:07 pm to
He survived what 9 assassination attempts, was known to have over a 12 body doubles, and you think he would not think about a fabricated suicide and would just killed himself like all the other high level Nazi's like Dr. Mengele LINK. (LOL)

Assisted by a network of former SS members, Mengele sailed to Argentina in July 1949. He initially lived in and around Buenos Aires, then fled to Paraguay in 1959 and Brazil in 1960 while being sought by West Germany, Israel, and Nazi hunters such as Simon Wiesenthal so that he could be brought to trial. In spite of extradition requests by the West German government and clandestine operations by Mossad (the Israeli intelligence agency), Mengele eluded capture. He drowned while swimming off the Brazilian coast in 1979 and was buried under a false name. His remains were disinterred and positively identified by forensic examination in 1985.
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:09 pm to
Bound to be some Jews on here. Ask a buddy in Mosaad, they never bought the bunker story either.
Posted by blue_morrison
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:23 pm to
What is WW11? When was 3-10?
Posted by TopHog1
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:28 pm to
No one saw Hitler kill himself in the Bunker. Only heard a gun shot

Facts.
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:36 pm to
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He survived what 9 assassination attempts, was known to have over a 12 body doubles, and you think he would not think about a fabricated suicide and would just killed himself like all the other high level Nazi's like Dr. Mengele LINK.


Closer to 40 attempts on his life and while he maintained a large contingency of bodyguards he had very little faith in their ability to protect him and believed that his life was essentially in the hands of chance, however he was very paranoid and routinely changed travel times, destinations, carried a pistol on his person, etc.

And yes, even the most basic research into the man would show you that he was not going to risk being captured alive and while he could have left Berlin and moved south, up to a certain point, he was not getting out of Europe. Psychologically suicide was the logical expectation for Hitler once he was forced to accept that the war was lost; there were even contemporary studies done during the way by American psychiatrists who came to that very conclusion. He was also in constant physical pain, suffered from extreme bouts of depression and mania, and routinely talked about how death would be such a sweet release for him and he only continued to live for the sake of Germany. The fact is, his mental deterioration coupled with Parkinson's becoming more and more pronounced would have quickly eliminated any real ability to function, much less a worthwhile quality of life. In other words, even if he could have escaped, which he couldn't have, he had no incentive to go on living unless the war was won.

You roll out Mengele as an example to support your case, but Mengele, who was in much better health than Hitler, ultimately declined and suffered a stroke which led to his drowning. And he was healthy at the time of his escape, not to mention younger than Hitler. Again, in practical terms there is no way Hitler either could have escaped or survived for very long, much less lead anything resembling a life, had he been able to escape.
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:37 pm to
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No one saw Hitler kill himself in the Bunker. Only heard a gun shot



Then again, they did see the entry wound in his skull and discoloration around the mouth from having bitten down on a cyanide capsule...
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:11 am to
There are two "eyewitness" versions of the location of the self-inflicted pistol wound. One version is that Hitler shot himself in the mouth. The other is that he shot himself in the right temple.

Has this discrepancy ever been resolved?
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:38 am to
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There are two "eyewitness" versions of the location of the self-inflicted pistol wound. One version is that Hitler shot himself in the mouth. The other is that he shot himself in the right temple.

Has this discrepancy ever been resolved?



I've never heard of the account stating he shot himself in the mouth and that wouldn't make sense considering he was advised by a physician to bite down on a cyanide capsule and then shoot himself in the head, to be sure. There are photographs of the couch on which he shot himself though and the blood pattern is on the side of the sofa and along the armrest, indicating he shot himself in the side of the head.
Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 12:48 am to
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They didn't find any body. It had been completely incinerated. I believe the only thing that didn't completely burn was a jawbone. And the people that made it to the bunker escaped much earlier.

,,and you are completely wrong about this, just a simple Google search can prove that.
Posted by Tom288
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:12 am to
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and you are completely wrong about this, just a simple Google search can prove that.



And I believe you're addressing the wrong person, genius...seeing as how I was responding to that comment myself, therefore I didn't originally state it.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 3:15 am
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 6:20 am to
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ou can possibly duplicate numbers of teeth, fillings, crowns and bridge work. You can't however duplicate the dental work. Dental work is very individualizde and artistic in its very nature. You could never fool a forensic odontologist with a created dental double.


Unless the xrays used to ID Hitler were really those of the body double.
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