re: So Mitch (and other offended libs) want to remove Davis/Lee memorials, yet Crazy Horse ...

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That's kind of my point! As far as the nomadic Plains Indian tribes go, those frickers were happy as clams to chase buffalo, kill their neighboring tribes and eat a dog when times were hard. They had no interest in becoming dirt farmers.

The ones we couldn't kill, we ran relentlessly until they surrendered. Then we parked them on a reservation and gave them a stipend. You can call it the original welfare program, but if they'd sold their land, what would it have been worth?

I'm not saying the USA isn't better off with the Indians "civilized" and kept on their reservations, I'm just saying we fricked them. It's indisputable.

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Sounds like the general idea is that you shouldn't let foreign invaders settle en masse in your territory.

Because you end up conquered.

Not that they really could have stopped us. That's where the tech advantage comes in. The mongols had it, the Greeks had it, the Persians before them had it.

In the long march of time you are either conquerers or conquered.

They weren't prepared to be fricked as hard as they were, very true.

Do you feel bad for Kimbre peoples who were crushed under the heel of the Roman boot? No, of course not, because they are largely forgotten except for obscure history books.

The Indians benefit from a fairly recent conquering and a modern media that portrays them as noble. (Not to suggest that they weren't in ways. But they were in large part just as savage as the rest of humanity. They weren't all peace and love)
They are a dying kind just as the last remnants of a city put to the Mongol sword would be.

The histories tell us this same story over and over.

We'll either have more hard times ahead to forge steel out of the soft society of today and bounce back, or we'll fall apart and Balkanize.

I'm saying that everyone gets fricked and does some fricking in the long run.

The Indians (Teepee not Slurpee) and Africans Were many different tribes. Some fricked and others got fricked.

The white devils just came along with a ship full of bigger technological dicks.

Sure the western world fricked the Indians. What did you expect us to do?
We crossed over oceans on giant ships with magical thundersticks.

That's like a Marine facing a starving Ethiopian.

And honestly, thank god we did, because the proggies back in Europe are letting the homeland be overrun with outsiders.


They should look at the Indians and take a lesson.

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I was talking about North America in general, and the current continental United States in particular. Since the Mayflower landed almost 400 years ago, the vast majority of the time, European Americans have been fricking the indigenous Native Americans. Sometimes hard, sometimes lovingly, sometimes - but only temporarily - not at all. Which leads me to my conclusion that we fricked the Indians.

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You are right but that has gone on since different clans of humans found the first watering hole, shelter cave or secret hunting ground. It does not matter in the ethnicity of either party. It just happens.

BTW, I am totally into the whole "Native American" thing and even have done my own version of the Inipi.
I love what most of them stood for in the Noble Savage way they are portrayed and would have loved to have lived back in the day like a Jeremiah Johnson character.
But I also realize that as a human being, they are no different and may have seen me as a threat and might have scalped me after skinning me alive.
That is reality!

BTW. Do not focus only on the continental US. Do some reading into how the Spanish treated the natives in Mexico, Latin and South America.

I am headed to Coushatta tomorrow to give some money to the local natives here.

The crazy horses in the Black Hills and motorcyclist spend a lot of money to see it every year during Sturgis week,

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God forbid people complain about getting railroaded. You tell women to just lay back and enjoy it if they can't stop it, too?

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Not sure if you understand what you posted. You compared tearing down statues (inanimate objects), to women (human beings) getting raped?

I just love how Alton Sterling's brother got shot by another black dude, but white cops are still the problem.

Thats the thing about liberals; when they're not trying to figure out ways to legalize paedophilia, they're dreaming up shite to be offended by.

*sigh*

Life is so simple for some...or so they think

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Believe me, if I could, I would. I typically post off of my phone and I just can't get it to work for me.

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Highlighting the text and hitting the quote button doesn't work? I don't care how you quote, btw, just trying to help.

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The mind of the southern conservative whitey is fascinating. Somehow you think the fight to keep people slaves is "stopping federal overreach." And that Native American fight to stop thier people from being slaughtered is the same as fighting to keep slaves.

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Geez, you're an idiot. Slavery is being stuck in poverty because you're in a welfare state. Rather than being forced to be somewhat successful and thriving, than to live off the government tit.

I just can't understand how the Civil War was about freeing the slaves, while many in the North still had slaves. But I'm sure you learned more accurate things watching CNN.