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re: So im more convinced than ever that the govt allowed 9/11 to happen

Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:34 pm to
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Placebeaux

I must say, your troll game has been rock solid in this thread
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:35 pm to
Its easy when you got laws of physics on your side and shite.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:38 pm to
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So this "supposedly" came from dust from the WTC. Right.



Un-ignited nanothermite was found in the dust particles.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Already said it once, I'm not getting into a lengthy geophysics talk here. Most of y'all probably can't read/understand a tenth of what he says in that paper.


I read it once and understand most of it. I'd have to study if further to be tested on it though...

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Underground explosions caused the buildings to collapse from the top


As I understood it, Rousseau was corroborating the observation by FEMA:
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"Review of videotape recordings of the collapse taken from various angles indicates that the transmission tower on top of the structure began to move downward and laterally slightly before movement was evident at the exterior wall. This suggests that collapse began with one or more failures in the central core area of the building."


Are theses wave forms recorded at the Pallsades station indicative of explosions (the high amplitude wave forms at the beginning of all three collapse signatures)?



ETA:
What throws me off is Rousseau is saying that the seismic activity recorded 5 explosions. One at tower one when the first plane hit, the second at tower 2 when the second plane hit, the third upon the collapse of tower 2, the fourth upon the collapse of tower 1 and the fifth upon the collapse of building 7. I wouldn't expect simultaneous explosions as the planes hit towers 1 and 2.

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Finally, the controlled demolition of the three towers, suggested by the visual and audio testimony, as well as by observations of their collapse, is thus demonstrated by the analysis of the seismic waves emitted at the moments of the plane impacts and at the moments of the collapse.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 2:59 pm to
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All of the news channels almost seemed as if they were reading the same piece of paperwork word for word...


So what is the significance of this then? The government gave the media the 9/11 script of talking points before the first plane hit?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:00 pm to
So where are the full scale nanothermite tests that prove all this?
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:06 pm to
Well we know for a FACT that CNN coludes with the Democratic party on presidential debates so to suggest that the media and government officals work together behind the sceens is not a stretch.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:06 pm to
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So where are the full scale nanothermite tests that prove all this?

Forensic Metallurgy
Metallurgical Examination of WTC Steel Suggests Explosives
Posted by timbo
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:09 pm to
We live in a world where the president can't get a consensual blow job from an intern without the whole world finding out and you're trying to tell me that multiple people in multiple agencies had a heads up that an attack that would kill 3,000+ people would happen and they just ignored it?
Please don't reproduce.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:11 pm to
You see the beauty of the professor's report is it doesnt matter what type of explosive was used. He knows the difference between waves that originate subterranean and ones that dont. Falling building could not produce the waves the the seismograph recorded.
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Well we know for a FACT that CNN coludes with the Democratic party on presidential debates so to suggest that the media and government officals work together behind the sceens is not a stretch.


To suggest that the media would work behind the scenes with a Republican president is quite a stretch
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:12 pm to
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Well we know for a FACT that CNN coludes with the Democratic party on presidential debates so to suggest that the media and government officals work together behind the sceens is not a stretch.




It's not like the CIA would make payments to major papers to spread their propaganda either.











































CIA/WaPo $600 Million disinformation campaign.
Posted by timbo
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:12 pm to
JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS!11!!!!11!!!
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:14 pm to
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JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS!11!!!!11!!!


You are right.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:16 pm to
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To suggest that the media would work behind the scenes with a Republican president is quite a stretch


Of course they would. Look at Trump, have you ever witnessed a more concerted effort to destroy a President? Where was this for all the other republican presidents?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Forensic Metallurgy
Metallurgical Examination of WTC Steel Suggests Explosives

Yeah, that's great, but I mean the actual full scale tests where they melt/blow up steel with actual nanothermite.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:25 pm to
I swear, I dont know whats worse, people that believe there is a God, a two party system or the offical 911 commission report.
Posted by TheGasMan
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:31 pm to
man you guys are great trolls. I can't even resist. Seriously cheers boys

I've installed numerous seismometers in areas with similar substrate to Manhatten. I have most assuredly seen P and S (obviously) and Rayleigh waves at greater than 30km from trucks using a damn Jake brake.

Dr. Rousseau is a kook. Funny that he couldn't get any of the seismologist at Columbia to co-author with him. I mean it is in NYC, Lamont Doherty is one of the premier geology schools in the world, and their seismometer array is closer to the WTCs than this Palisades unit at 34km.

You're right about not being able to tell what would've caused the "explosions". But there are none present in that data. One needs to compare multiple seismometers to pull out velocities and designate between different wave patterns. All of this has been done by multiple seismologist. I stand with them.

ETA: in fairness to y'all, I actually didn't realize that the Palisades seismo is Lamonts. That's my bad on that one. Still, the network of over 40 seismos in/around NYC/NJ have all been reviewed and compared with each other.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 3:35 pm to
So, what are the the high amplitude wave forms at the beginning of all three collapse signatures recorded at the Pallsades station indicative of?
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