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re: So if you make a million dollars at the casino how much of is taxed?

Posted on 11/22/15 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 7:42 pm to
A lot of these people have a substantial amount of chips at their house. They cash them in a little at a time.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20409 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 7:51 pm to
And that is called Income Tax Evasion. Uncle Sammy going to get his.
Posted by Wooly
Member since Feb 2012
13851 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 7:52 pm to
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whats the incentive for sharks at a casino if they get a percentage taken out?


whats the incentive to work if its going to be taxed too, right?
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 7:57 pm to
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There's no telling how much the high rollers are banking and if they really worry about tax forms.


Casinos and banks have the nicest buildings for a reason.
This post was edited on 11/22/15 at 7:58 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 8:06 pm to
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a certain percentage of your income has to come from gambling for you to be able to claim losses.


Well if you win a million I would guess that would be a "certain percentage"
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:19 am to
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How do they know you didn't lose 1.5 million before and are still down overall?


I very seldom see a tax return with a 1099-G (or whatever it is called, not an accountant) that isn't offset by an equal amount of losses. I'd say it would be hard to prove you had that much in losses though... assuming you get audited. Worth a shot I supposed, then just offer a heartfelt "oops" if caught.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 9:31 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110721 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:26 am to
I have had to pay taxes on gambling winnings once, when I got a table share of a bad beat jackpot playing poker. I think there is some dollar amount where this kicks in, though I have cashed out a few thousand in chips from blackjack and not had to fill out any forms.

I also don't have to pay any taxes on the "free" rooms the casinos give me.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110721 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:28 am to
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I very seldom see a tax return with a 1099-G that isn't offset by an equal amount of losses. I'd say it would be hard to prove you had that much in losses though... assuming you get audited. Worth a shot I supposed, then just offer a heartfelt "oops" if caught.


The casinos track your winnings and losses for you and can give you a statement and tax forms at the end of the year if needed. Their amount may not be precise down to the cent, but it's pretty close.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98791 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:30 am to
A friend of mine and I were at the old Belle of Baton Rouge one night and he hit 4 deuces on Let It Ride which netted him 25k. They took 30-40% and a gave him a 1099. Took forever to complete the transaction as well.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:33 am to
If you go on a hot streak that results in $1M on winnings at a table, I've got a feeling you've got some significant gambling losses that you can use to offset those winnings
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15406 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 9:37 am to
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It really depends on how you won it.


I have a feeling there is truth to this.... Hitting a jackpot on a slot machine is probably handled differently then some whale playing $100k hands of blackjack and goes on a little winning streak.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:09 am to
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Let's say you are on a streak at a table and you make a million, how much of that goes toward taxes?Since there are taxes on winnings, whats the incentive for sharks at a casino if they get a percentage taken out?

This is a problem you'll never have to worry about. Kinda like how people say what they'd do with their lottery winnings.
Posted by stonedbegonias
Member since Jan 2010
12240 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:10 am to
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if you make a million dollars at the casino


It could buy me a boat!
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13734 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:22 am to
I am not being argumentative I am just curious. Say you start the night out by getting 100,000 in chips. At the end of the night you have 120,000 in chips. Do you pay taxes on 120,000 or just 20,000?

And if the week before you lost 20,000 does that effect the taxes on the night you win.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76782 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:32 am to
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I think a certain percentage of your income has to come from gambling for you to be able to claim losses.


Not so. I was able to claim $1500 in losses at Laberge to offset a $5k win I had at Harrah's. Harrah's took $300 off the top at the table and I still had to claim the winnings when i filed my taxes.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 10:37 am to
I would say this depends on the casino policy. One night I had 3 $1800 individual wins on hands of blackjack at one of those electronic machines. They had to stop play each time to give me the tax form. They didn't withhold anything though. This was at a small little casino.

I've also cashed out $10-$15k many times at larger casinos from bj and never received a tax form or had anything withheld. They do ID me for over $5k and check my action at the table for over $10k though.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:02 am to
There is no obligation for a casino to withhold from table game winnings. Any withholding is strictly voluntary by the player. The casino must withhold from winnings on certain types of bets with winnings over certain amounts. These include slot machines, horse races and Keno.

The casino does two types of reporting. One is tax reporting and the other is cash transaction reporting. There are well established rules for how casinos do both. The penalties for non-compliance are severe, and the casinos take their reporting responsibilities pretty seriously. They tend to err on the side of caution.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:08 am to
Here is a link concerning cash transaction reporting.


LINK
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:13 am to
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You mean W-2G?


yeah

never won a mil...
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5422 posts
Posted on 11/23/15 at 11:27 am to
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I think a certain percentage of your income has to come from gambling for you to be able to claim losses.


Not how I understand it. You can claim your losses to offset winnings if the casino is tracking them for you. It is more difficult on table games but the slots keep up for you if you have your player card. You can win $5000 on a slot and show you lost that or more during the year and it helps a lot on what you end up owing.
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