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So far, Lollapalooza does not appear to have been a super spreader event

Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25366 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:39 am
Still less than 2 weeks ago, so things can change as people start getting tested after experiencing symptoms. Chicago area case numbers are up, but not as bad as you'd thinking considering the size and nature of the event.

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The National Review

The Lollapalooza music festival was held in Chicago from July 29 to August 1. The Chicago Sun-Times denounced the event as “unsafe” and “certain” to become “a super-spreader” — even though everyone who attended was required to show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test taken within the past three days. Upwards of 385,000 people attended at least one day of the four-day festival.

Here’s the odd thing, though. This event, which was supposed to be a super-spreader, ended a week ago. The virus can incubate in a person for anywhere from two to 14 days. Eight days later, you would think we would be hearing about at least some calamitous consequences — large numbers of attendees testing positive for the virus, and perhaps even some attendees requiring hospitalization. City officials encouraged concertgoers to get themselves tested after attending. Keep in mind, the audience for these concerts is generally young people — and vaccinated young people are the demographic least likely to have a severe, or even symptomatic, reaction to infection.

According to the city of Chicago’s data, in the four days before the festival began — July 24 to July 28 — Chicago had 984 new cases. During the four days of the festival, Chicago reported 1,039 new cases — about a 5 percent increase from the previous four-day span. And in the first four days after the festival ended — August 2 to August 5 — Chicago reported 1,251 new cases of COVID-19, about a 20 percent increase from the span during the festival. (I would compare it to later periods of time, but August 5 looks like the last day of full data on the city’s website.) Someone could argue, “Egads! Increasing from 984 cases to 1,251 cases is a 27 percent jump!” And indeed it is . . . out of a city of 2.7 million people.

Among the demographic most likely to attend a music festival — those between the ages of 18 and 29 — there was a slight, irregular increase in the number of cases. Three days before the festival, 79 Chicagoans between 18 and 29 tested positive for COVID-19; the day after that, it was 73, and the day after that, it was 94. The day the festival ended, 50 Chicagoans between the ages of 18 and 29 tested positive for the virus. The day after that, it was 119; the day after that it was 113, and the day after that it was 84. Again — a slight increase, not a spike. And we don’t know whether any of these individuals attended the festival, interacted with anyone who did, or lived nearby.

But there was no surge in hospitalizations in Chicago in the days after the concert began, and no surge in deaths. On August 3, Chicago Department of Public Health commissioner Dr. Allison Arwady said that any discernible rise in the city’s figures was not because of the festival, and that it tracked with pre-festival rate of increase. Perhaps she was just trying to defend the city’s decision to allow the concert to go forward. But so far, no one can point to concrete data of a surge of sick Chicagoans caused by the festival.


Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13932 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:40 am to
I used to hate big crowds like that because being in them usually sucks.

Now, I find them beautiful
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51297 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:41 am to
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even though everyone who attended was required to show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test taken within the past three days.


This is the future.
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7588 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:41 am to
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Chicago


There’s your answer
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32797 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:42 am to
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The Chicago Sun-Times denounced the event as “unsafe” and “certain” to become “a super-spreader”


God, I hate the media.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21752 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:42 am to
Better safe than sorry friend.

Millions upon millions have died of coronavirus. Safety matters. I'm glad Mayor Cantrell is keeping my city safe.
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:42 am to
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15767 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:43 am to
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There’s your answer


What’s the question?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14610 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:44 am to
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Better safe than sorry friend.

Millions upon millions have died of coronavirus. Safety matters. I'm glad Mayor Cantrell is keeping my city safe.



Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:44 am to
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The Chicago Sun-Times denounced the event as “unsafe” and “certain” to become “a super-spreader”



How about the literal WORLDWIDE OLYMPICS where people FROM ALL OTHER THE ENTIRE PLANET convene for weeks then spread back out into their home countries of the world.

That was a great idea wasn't it? If anything that is KING SUPER SPREADER EVENT.

Was there outrage in Japan?
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 10:45 am
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21326 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:45 am to
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Better safe than sorry friend.

Millions upon millions have died of coronavirus. Safety matters. I'm glad Mayor Cantrell is keeping my city safe.


You're either an amateur troll or Momma dropped you on your head when you were an infant. I'm leaning to the latter.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37546 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:46 am to
There were no fans allowed, athletes tested daily, and athletes not allowed to compete or stay in the country if they tested positive.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51297 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:46 am to
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Was there outrage in Japan?


Yes. A ton actually.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15767 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:47 am to
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Was there outrage in Japan?


Didn’t they ban spectators for the Olympics and test the athletes regularly? Not sure you can compare the two.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:47 am to
But Fauci said that the Sturgis rally in South Dakota is a super spreader event. LINK

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Those who are driving this fear-mongering narrative could really help themselves if they would avoid being so openly hypocritical. Then again, in order to continue advancing a rabid and illogical fallacy they have to pretend not to know things…. Such is the essence of leftism.

Barack Obama assembles 700 unmasked friends at a party in Martha’s vineyard and that’s okay. 100,000+ cram into Grant Park for Lollapalooza, and that too is okay…. but show up on a motorcycle in South Dakota and the next super-spreader event is triggered.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260878 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:48 am to
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I'm glad Mayor Cantrell is keeping my city safe.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14610 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:48 am to
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Was there outrage in Japan?


Do you even cardboard bed?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27381 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:49 am to
Only Trump rally’s and church services are superspreaders.
Posted by tigermike5
Member since Mar 2006
1277 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:50 am to
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How about the literal WORLDWIDE OLYMPICS where people FROM ALL OTHER THE ENTIRE PLANET convene for weeks then spread back out into their home countries of the world.

That was a great idea wasn't it? If anything that is KING SUPER SPREADER EVENT.

Was there outrage in Japan?


You mean the event that only allowed domestic fans. So no one outside of coaches and Olympian’s no fans from their country including friends and family were able to attend. Find a better example.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21752 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:51 am to
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